Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: cudabitten]
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12/18/12 10:16 PM
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There's no such thing as too much.
(just be sure you don't get that thick pastey goop onto the sides of the lifters, because it may prevent them from rotating in their bores, which will cause them to eat a lobe)
tons of goopy thick lube on the cam lobes, nothing more than WD40 on the sides of the lifters. turn the crank a few times by hand before installing the intake manifold, make sure the lifters are rotating.
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: cudabitten]
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12/18/12 10:36 PM
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Thanks. Engine assembly lube Ok? Any preferences?
I've noticed that different cam manufacturers/engine builders recommend different methods. I just installed my new Summit cam with 30WT which they recommend. I've used assembly lube too (not grease).
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: cudabitten]
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12/19/12 12:46 AM
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As said there's plenty. When you goop the bottoms make the circle of goop slightly smaller than the perimeter so NO cam lube gets on the sides. On mockup I would clean the lifters/lifter bores with brake kleen then lightly lube with WD40 then install the lifters in the holes on the lobes & lift each lifter up off its' respective lobe with your finger & release it & each lifter must fall back onto its' lobe with a resounding "thunk" & if not the clearance is too tight & the lifters wont rotate properly which is critical with todays cam problems along with cam goop/good oil/immediate start/2500 rpm/goosing the throttle/removing inner springs and or lesser springs for breakin. EDIT put some on the fuel pump lobe (BB) also
Last edited by RapidRobert; 12/19/12 10:51 PM.
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: cudabitten]
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12/19/12 05:25 PM
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The nasty, sticky black moly paste performs best when burnished into the surface of the metal, rather than just being slopped on. Moroso recommends working it into the surface of the metal with a cloth  I think that is what I see in the package, but am not sure? The stuff can actually clog the oil filter, so it's probably best to not use any more than they give you and change the filter after run in. Good idea to dump the oil also.
Rich H.
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: ZIPPY]
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12/19/12 05:45 PM
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The nasty, sticky black moly paste performs best when burnished into the surface of the metal, rather than just being slopped on. Moroso recommends working it into the surface of the metal with a cloth
I think that is what I see in the package, but am not sure?
The stuff can actually clog the oil filter, so it's probably best to not use any more than they give you and change the filter after run in. Good idea to dump the oil also.
  Use it sparingly, don't load the lobes up and don't let any get on the sides of the lobes, if you do that it will be slung onto the bottoms of the lifters and can get up into the lifter bores slowing the lifter rotation down  Make sure and prime the carb. before starting, make sure the motor starts right away, two or three revolutions on the starter at the most if the motor sits more than 3 weeks since priming reprime it just before starting Run the motor up to and above 1500 RPM for at least 20 minutes, watch the water temps, if it gets above 215 F shut it down and let it cool or cool it down by running cool water through the motor until it gets down below 140 F Use a clock to make sure you run it long enough to break the cam in correclty I normally run them long enouggh to break the cam in and then drain the oil, chabge the oil filter and cut it apart for inspection, don't be shocked to see a lot of debris in there, paint chips, small pieces of metal, eyebrows or eyelashes   Lots of stuff manages to get into a motor with oil on it during assembly, no matter how hard you try  I check the valve lash then also, I fill the new oil filter up with oil several times before putting onto the motor I normally break my motors in on a engine dyno so I know what the oil and water temps are during the break in process, once the cam is broken in and all is good, I set the igntion timing while the cam is breaking I get after the motor, several pulls to 5000 or 5500 RPM depending on the cam and compression ratio and then get after it to find out what it will do  
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: Paul_Fancsali]
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12/20/12 09:12 PM
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I use wheel bearing grease and liberally coat the lobes and bearing surface on top of cam a whole can of eos. I soak the lifters in combo of 30wt oil and Marvell mystery oil. Change oil and filter after running it in and driving roughly 100 miles
Cam manufacturers do not recommend pre-soaking the lifters any more. In fact many say DON'T. Also make sure not to get the cam lube on the lifter sides or the block lifter bore. Lubricate the lifters there with a very light machine oil.
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
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12/21/12 01:55 AM
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I use wheel bearing grease
How much zinc is in wheel bearing grease?? 
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: How much lube on a new cam install ?
[Re: GTX MATT]
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12/21/12 12:46 PM
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The nasty, sticky black moly paste performs best when burnished into the surface of the metal, rather than just being slopped on. Moroso recommends working it into the surface of the metal with a cloth
I think that is what I see in the package, but am not sure?
The stuff can actually clog the oil filter, so it's probably best to not use any more than they give you and change the filter after run in. Good idea to dump the oil also.
What happened to this stuff? Comp's cam lube is now a weird sticky fluid that runs off
It's still out there (click here).
But, alot of the older cam lubes---if they already have not fallen under scrutiny, will soon be considered a form of hazmat and are going to get really expensive to ship soon. The nasty old brown Mopar lube that used to ship with purple shafts, does not come with them anymore for that reason....
To me it is another reason to run a roller cam wherever reasonably possible/in the budget, etc. As if I needed another reason
Rich H.
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