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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354426
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This may be a little costly, but not as much as you would think and sneaky indeed.
Have the front bumper chemically milled (I know an excellent Dipper that I could personally deliver it to) then have it rechromed. Make a few aluminum pencil bar braces to critical points of vibration and it will be a ringer.
I agree, I personally don't like painted bumpers.
There are flat bolt on hinge type glass hoods out there. I forgot the company/s making them, but once painted like factory, the notion goes away. This is crucial weight taken off high and frontal area of the car. Good dietary measures here.
I believe the later Feather Duster and Dart lite hoods may not be the same in style and fit though they have aluminum under support structures.
Yes, your hood is a little complicated to make in the lite alloy, but not impossible. Costly yes and four point pinned it would have to be.

Esthetically, I got away with my incorrect four point pinning system for a 65' because my car is a combo of A864, A990 AFX and 2% cars all in one, so it's par for the course.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354427
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Bringing up my trans member some time this weekend. Will post up photos soon.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #1354428
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The article got me thinking about a fiberglass hood for my car. Obviously it's nothing real sneaky or innovative but it sure cuts weight off the front, especially if it's a pin-on type. Not sure if the 'street weight' ones that use the OE hood hinges are worth getting though. Doubt I'd ever make one out of aluminum sheet like someone did.

Maybe if you got a flat one and paint it factory color or something it might go undetected but hood pins will always give it away. I like my crooked, steel flat hood without the belly button six pack scoop.

I've also always liked the idea of a glass bumper up front if you could make it look right. I never liked the look of a painted bumper, just looks chintzy to me. And unfortunately from what I have read about plastic chroming, it's not so great so I'm hesitant to go down that road. That would be the hippest though, a light glass bumper with nice, shiny chrome.




A fiberglass bumper with a chrome wrap would be cool.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dannysbee] #1354429
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You could make up hidden brackets on the back side of the hood and pins that show in the front. That would be semi stealthly.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dannysbee] #1354430
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Yeah, I believe that DZuster with the Turbo 62' plymouth on here made a back ward system where the pins were pointing downward and out of site, something like that or another. I'm sure with some thinking and tinkering that a stealth system can be made.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354431
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This may not apply to most transmission mounts on other cars.
But this is what I found, By chance, I happen to weigh the stock rubber transmission mount against the Polyurethane repro mounts on the market by Imperial services and found that the stock mount weighed 1/2 pound more than the Poly mount. It was a pleasant surprise.

I've tried to call Imperial services with no success to see if they (since their mounts are made in house) would use my supplied shaped Titanium trans mount bracket (the one you see in the pictures) and install it into the poly mold to end with a super lightweight mount. Oh well, they don't return or answer their calls.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354432
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i read on the general forum[i think it was] that imperial services has some difficulties as of late. sounds like they don't do business with customers any more. as i understand it, the only way to get their products now is through distributors of their products ?

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparx] #1354433
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Their answering service does not indicate their change in policy which means trouble. Like the saying goes, "A business with no sign, is a sign of no business"
I ordered custom length shift cables from them years back and I don't think a distributor is going to provide that kind of service nowadays.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354434
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Here's the finished piece right before installation. All bolt holes align with under body chassis member and fits nice and tucked like factory using a combination of tried and trued Titanium/Aluminum fasteners.
Like said before, will paint semi gloss white for crack detection.

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Underside with the poly mount in its nest.
Will try and get it in the car in a day or so.
All of this when all said and done with all mounting bolts shaved 5 lbs.
A long look back in this read and fabrication flicks can show how precision it had to be accordingly to the messy factory fabrication itself.
I'm surprised on how crude some member/s including K members can be from the factory and survive all these years. I gave it a bit more precision neatness for ease of install and function. Maybe for that reason, it doesn't pass for a factory appearing piece. LOL.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354436
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Awesome work man...........


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354437
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Thank you.
Could not have done it with out the enthusiasm of you guys and the excellence of my new and timely welding guy.
Now when I get another second within a New York minute, I'll go at it with the horn ring.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354438
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I`m glad this post has kept going like this and you and others have reminded me and opened my eyes to new lightning tricks and mods. Thankxxx.......


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I'm sure there are many other mods and tricks to be discovered, uncovered and recovered from the Mopar covert files.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354440
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No doubt about it but fall and winter are coming so when most are working on their stuff I`m out chasin et`s and thrashin my junk..........


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354441
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Beautiful job on the transmount!!!

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Thank you.
I couldn't resist and snuck out to the grotto for a mock up install. Here it is in its cubby. Tranny sitting at its correct level and snug.
Wouldn't do this again, but it was lots of fun if that makes sense.

Note the aluminum exhaust system (another venture into madness) and metal matrix propeller shaft. It was the very final Matrix shaft (Last length of metal matrix tubing) that Dyno-tech made being that expenses and minimums went through the roof.

Now to the next phase. All I can say is that it will be ornamental and super trick. Stay tuned.
Thanx guys. Hope this spawns other MADMEN out there. LOL. Just think and rethink all you do and use good materials along with knowledgeable welding and fasteners. After that, check and recheck.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1354443
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Back side.
Its amazing how short of a bridge the trans member is. I guess that just makes it more stubbier and strong along with the chassis cross member. Those old Chrysler corporation engineers were geniuses.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1354444
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So winters here and what a perfect time to spend in the garage or where ever removing weight from our cars or unless your past that point then you`re probable doing something in the name of lower et`s. For all of us who`d like to see real word lightning programs and the weight lost and the real cost, let`s hear em. Like; Glass compered to lexan or removing metal as I am and the gains et wise or glass doors, deck lid etc. and can these pieces stand up on the street or sitting in the sun?





what a long time running thread...anyways..my 63 Dodge MW, had the complete nose and doors acid dipped from back in the day..the rear quarter windows were replaced with Plexi and the cranks removed but I'll replace the Plexi with Lexan...the entire interior is gutted and metal removed from the inner side of the doors...it's a back half with all metal removed from behind the driver to the rear valance...aluminum will be used to cover where steel once was plus 40" aluminum tubs.......the cage will be all Moly....rear suspension pieces (4-link) are all Moly too....front suspension is all Moly as well and the stock K member and torsion bars removed...


projected weight with a 440 based RB block and TF should be under 2800 lbs..perhaps even less...this will be mostly a street racer (cough)

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: smokinwoody] #1354445
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You should have close to this projected weight from what has already been done.

I've seen some of these early B's in that range with everything gutted. Good luck.

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