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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353486
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While we're on the doors, here is a stock striker with backing plate and mounting hardware, Underneath is the new aluminum backing plate I cut out. When I get the 7075 Aluminum strikers from Detroit where they're being milled, I'll post up a flick or two. This process only saves about 1-1/2 Lbs between the both sides.

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untapped Aluminum backing plate. Fairly easy to cut out and tap.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353488
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Here's a few tricks known and not so known to be done to any interior of any Mopar both street and strip.
* Quarter window cranks in place of the larger front door window cranks. Smaller and lighter by 3/4 lb.
* Headliner insulator and lower cowl sound deadners along with the coat hooks. 2-1/2 lbs. Who needs coats in the Summer months.
* Sunvisors and hardware. 3 lbs. A good pair of Sunglasses can help.
* Rear view mirror trimming.
Here's an example of my original early B-body mirror with the sun visor docks cut off and trimming on the main spine. 1/2 lb.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353489
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Anymore Davey Jones locker secrets out there that need to be shared?
I know some of you are keen and lean with some new tricks.
I especially liked the downwards hood pin deal that the cat with the sleeper Turquoise 62' Savoy created.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353490
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Anymore Davey Jones locker secrets out there that need to be shared?
I know some of you are keen and lean with some new tricks.
I especially liked the downwards hood pin deal that the cat with the sleeper Turquoise 62' Savoy created.


I`m going w/a plastic rear view mirror and found a guy locally w/1/8`th lexan for my windshield............wasn`t gonna go lexan but figured what the hell.....soon baby soon.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353491
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Anymore Davey Jones locker secrets out there that need to be shared?
I know some of you are keen and lean with some new tricks.
I especially liked the downwards hood pin deal that the cat with the sleeper Turquoise 62' Savoy created.




The apple doesn't fall from the tree. That's my sons car. Your stuff amazes me. I like the mirror
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353492
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Your Lexan windshield should not be too hard to form since it has a rather modest contour. Just take your time and shut off the cell and it will all go well. You should shave at least 10 lbs from that glass alone.
Is the plastic rear mirror you're using look like your current one?
Those side door mirrors can weigh much as well. I kept mine so as to keep the heat away from giving me flack.
I've been busy lately with work, but I have a few ideas in the works and/or already implanted. When I get a moment, I'll post 'em.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #1353493
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really? is that your son's car?
That car can catch the best of them on the street corner.
That car's hairdryers wind would be the only indication of suspicion, but a diet plan put onto it would make it a widow maker.
Yeah, the Mirror Mirror on the wall called out for it when I had some down time and a light bulb went on in my head.

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Your Lexan windshield should not be too hard to form since it has a rather modest contour. Just take your time and shut off the cell and it will all go well. You should shave at least 10 lbs from that glass alone.
Is the plastic rear mirror you're using look like your current one?
Those side door mirrors can weigh much as well. I kept mine so as to keep the heat away from giving me flack.
I've been busy lately with work, but I have a few ideas in the works and/or already implanted. When I get a moment, I'll post 'em.


My dr. side mirror is plastic and no pass mirror and the rear view mirrior is metal and falls after a pass anyhow. Guess I`ll ditch the visore and paint a nice border on top for sun glare............this is fun and rewarding for sure.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353495
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Sorry to throw cold water on a cherished method, but all of the formulas ("1 lb. of rotating weight is worth X lbs. of static weight") are completely wrong.
On some cars, the result may be ballpark by accident, but why would removing 1 lb. rotating weight at 5" from its rotational center (like a crank CW) in a 2,500 lb. chassis have any relation at all to removing 1 lb. from the center of an axle in a 5,000 lb. chassis?

It doesn't.
The math for equivalent effect must include the RPM and the effective center of rotating mass.

Re: Weight ahead of the CG almost always helps ET
Did no-one notice that this is backward?


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"Weight at the front of CG helps ET"
This came off wrong to me as well, but then I figured after reading it over a few times that what Wize was trying to actually say was: weight REMOVED from the front of CG would help ET.
I personally have looked into removing rotational weight from using different weight tires more than actual wheels. I found that my car cut ET by two tenths by switching to lighter tires, and then not much at all from lighter wheels.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1353497
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"Weight at the front of CG helps ET"
This came off wrong to me as well, but then I figured after reading it over a few times that what Wize was trying to actually say was: weight REMOVED from the front of CG would help ET.
I personally have looked into removing rotational weight from using different weight tires more than actual wheels. I found that my car cut ET by three tenths by switching to lighter tires, and then not much at all from lighter wheels.


Three tenth`s from tires? That`s crazy................was that the only factor or change to the car back to back?


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #1353498
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My fall.
Two tenths on the tires and it was only a change from Vintage Bias-ply Super Stock formula 1 front tires to Moroso Front runners along with the rear Mc-Creary's to Hoosier QTPs one day to the other with weather almost the same.
The Formula 1's of which were looking almost period correct on my car weighed 23 Lbs each as compared to the Morosos that weighed in at 13-1/2 lbs each. I lost the numbers for the rears though.
The remaining tenth that made up the three tenth loss was found with launch tactics, a little bump on the timing and synthetic Torco engine oil from traditional dinosaur oil.

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Gotcha............. Still none the less good gains........


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dont know if this has been mentioned but if you have a full cage including the halo inside the roof then cut the supports that stiffen the roof for rollover puposes and strength, it is the boxed metal along the upper windshield which also supports the visors and rearwiew mirror and along the sides to the rear pillars that connect to the wheel wells it is heavy and time consuming to cut out without butchering it is worth a good amount of weight, the roof is heavy too it would be nice if somebody made a fiberglass roof or shaped one from aluminum, o ya also remove the center support it is where your dome light is attached it is glued so it takes some effort to remove. iv removed alot and i bet my car weighs somwhere of 2580-2700 one day ill buy scales and ill know, and if you have a lathe the scallup all the bolts and nuts you can, when i worked at Boeing factory i seen some neat bolts and nuts that are trimmed without losing there capability for example a nut would be 1/3 to 1/2 turnured down ( cutting the hex off )leaving just enuff to use a wrench or socket but still having all its thread, hope this didnt confuse anybody.

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dont know if this has been mentioned but if you have a full cage including the halo inside the roof then cut the supports that stiffen the roof for rollover puposes and strength, it is the boxed metal along the upper windshield which also supports the visors and rearwiew mirror and along the sides to the rear pillars that connect to the wheel wells it is heavy and time consuming to cut out without butchering it is worth a good amount of weight, the roof is heavy too it would be nice if somebody made a fiberglass roof or shaped one from aluminum, o ya also remove the center support it is where your dome light is attached it is glued so it takes some effort to remove. iv removed alot and i bet my car weighs somwhere of 2580-2700 one day ill buy scales and ill know, and if you have a lathe the scallup all the bolts and nuts you can, when i worked at Boeing factory i seen some neat bolts and nuts that are trimmed without losing there capability for example a nut would be 1/3 to 1/2 turnured down ( cutting the hex off )leaving just enuff to use a wrench or socket but still having all its thread, hope this didnt confuse anybody.


Cool info. I just have a bar for now but will more than likely step up and cage it so I can keep going faster safely and legally but ONLY after a 9.59 @ 137+..........So maybe not such a good idea removing roof support at this time in case things go bad..............


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I agree with ThumperD on the roof supports. I'd leave them in if no Full Roll cage is present.
I also have given the center cross brace some thought where the Dome light goes and figured that even though it would probably do nothing much on a roll over, it helps a little to keep the roof in its intended shape. I did remove the Dome light assembly on mine which shaved 3/4 lb.
I only have a 12 point roll bar/Halo in my car, not a cage as some of my well informed friends have indicated in the past.
Roll cage and Roll bar are two siblings of a different Father, one being Big Brother, the other being the brat kid.
In a fantasy no expense sheik type of built, I would some how have the front longitudes, K-member, fender aprons, radiator cross brace, firewall, fenders, Bumpers, hood and doors all made out of Aluminum. This would all then be bolted and super Hi-tech glued to the main body, B pillars with roof which would be made out of Titanium and the rear quarters and Bumper out of cold roll steel. Of course this would all be tide together with a super stealthy chrome-moly Roll cage hidden inside. In other words, the weight increases in the direction of the rear of the car.
Talk about a CG Lightweight masterpiece. Talk about wishful thinking. LOL.

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I agree with ThumperD on the roof supports. I'd leave them in if no Full Roll cage is present.
I also have given the center cross brace some thought where the Dome light goes and figured that even though it would probably do nothing much on a roll over, it helps a little to keep the roof in its intended shape. I did remove the Dome light assembly on mine which shaved 3/4 lb.
I only have a 12 point roll bar/Halo in my car, not a cage as some of my well informed friends have indicated in the past.
Roll cage and Roll bar are two siblings of a different Father, one being Big Brother, the other being the brat kid.
In a fantasy no expense sheik type of built, I would some how have the front longitudes, K-member, fender aprons, radiator cross brace, firewall, fenders, Bumpers, hood and doors all made out of Aluminum. This would all then be bolted and super Hi-tech glued to the main body, B pillars with roof which would be made out of Titanium and the rear quarters and Bumper out of cold roll steel. In other words, the weight increases in the direction of the rear of the car.
Talk about a CG Lightweight masterpiece. Talk about wishful thinking. LOL.


Talk about wads of greenbacks.............


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A whiles back at the Nationals, I met a 69 year old lightweightronist that was hand building some rather unique lightweight pieces for his 64' Plymouth stocker in the 70's. He mentioned that he was cleaning up the clocks with speed stemming from his covert light weight program. So as he told me, he revisited those practices again for fun in helping cats like us with stealthy projects. He started with the lightweight pieces you see below under the Frye Racing banner. I bought both the large firewall mounted aluminum brake reservoir plate and Distributor hold down from him. The mounting plate is a dead ringer for the original and it shaved 1 lb off. The Distributor hold down was also stealthy except for the holes that he drilled out.
After that, I never saw him again and I lost his contacts. He was from Indiana or some place like that and could talk up a storm about his tricks.

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Distributor hold down. If I remember it was a little under 1/2 lb savings. This was before I was keeping a log on all pounds and ounces.

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