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cable or solid rod for gas pedal #1349117
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cable wont reach carb to short .M1 INTAKE WITH 2" SPACER .has any one change over to solid rod ? whats involved ? pictures . or just buy a new adjustable cable kit from summmit? input please THANKS

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349118
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In our car, I used a slant six cable. Its longer, and made my own bracket. I don't care for the soild rod.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1349119
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Bob, I am running a Indy intake with a 2" spacer and a Jegs throttle cable bracket in mine and it has the origional slant six cable,,as said earlier they are a little longer.


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Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: dartman366] #1349120
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I run a /6 cable in my 65 B with MI and Dominator.Plenty of length.My kids 62 300 runs a stock solid rod with Holley intake and carb.He has never had any problems.We both run Poly mounts.Rocky


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imho a cable is better and safer 2¢

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: jamesc] #1349122
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If you have a new car built it will be a rod.


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Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349123
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I prefer a cable BUT if you run fast enough its mandatory
to have a foot loop and hard rod... I use the Locar

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1349124
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I prefer a cable BUT if you run fast enough its mandatory
to have a foot loop and hard rod... I use the Locar





the fastest cars in the world use a cable


i was under the impression all were required to have a toe clip though if i read this correctly a cable system is not required to have a toe clip...either way any throttle i use will have one.


NHRA general regulations read as follows

1:12 THROTTLE
Regardless of class, each car must have a foot throttle incorporating
a positive-acting return spring attached directly to the
carburetor/injector throttle arm. A positive stop or override prevention
must be used to keep linkage from passing over center and sticking
in an open position. In addition to return springs, some means of
manually returning the throttle to a closed position by use of the foot
must be installed on all altered linkage systems except hydraulically
or cable-operated systems.
Per Class Requirements throttle control
must be manually operated by driver’s foot; electronics, pneumatics,
hydraulics, or any other device may in no way affect the initial throttle
operation. In Super Street, Super Gas, Super Comp, and certain
E.T. bracket classes, timed throttle stops are permitted that use
pneumatics and or electronics to modulate the throttle after initial
launch. Cable throttle systems permitted. NHRA-accepted hand
controls for the physically challenged permitted. Choke cables and
brazed or welded fittings on steel cable prohibited. No part of throttle
linkage may extend below framerails.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: jamesc] #1349125
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Here's the Lokar setup.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: gtxjeff] #1349126
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Have had a lot of problems with the Lokar cable..not a good grade of cable. good for a street rod.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349127
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thanks for the replys i have 2 throttle cable brackets like the one installed on the motor above. one is a holley, the other is a jegs.but there for a 4150 carb, and they hit the front accelator arm. i need one for a 4500 dominator . any one have a extra one to sell or trade for one i have thanks

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349128
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I am looking to upgrade my cable system this winter and wanted to stay with the cable but how do you decide how much cable length you need.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: VernMotor] #1349129
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Have had a lot of problems with the Lokar cable..not a good grade of cable. good for a street rod.




Agree the cables fray. I replaced my lokar cable with a rod last year.

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349130
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cable wont reach carb to short .M1 INTAKE WITH 2" SPACER .has any one change over to solid rod ? whats involved ? pictures . or just buy a new adjustable cable kit from summmit? input please THANKS [/quote

Stock six cylinder cable reaches to the front carb no problem.
Doug

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Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: dvw] #1349131
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Like I said a /6 cable will fit just about all combs out there with cable to spare!!!

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: jamesc] #1349132
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Quote:

Quote:

I prefer a cable BUT if you run fast enough its mandatory
to have a foot loop and hard rod... I use the Locar





the fastest cars in the world use a cable


i was under the impression all were required to have a toe clip though if i read this correctly a cable system is not required to have a toe clip...either way any throttle i use will have one.


NHRA general regulations read as follows

1:12 THROTTLE
Regardless of class, each car must have a foot throttle incorporating
a positive-acting return spring attached directly to the
carburetor/injector throttle arm. A positive stop or override prevention
must be used to keep linkage from passing over center and sticking
in an open position. In addition to return springs, some means of
manually returning the throttle to a closed position by use of the foot
must be installed on all altered linkage systems except hydraulically
or cable-operated systems.
Per Class Requirements throttle control
must be manually operated by driver’s foot; electronics, pneumatics,
hydraulics, or any other device may in no way affect the initial throttle
operation. In Super Street, Super Gas, Super Comp, and certain
E.T. bracket classes, timed throttle stops are permitted that use
pneumatics and or electronics to modulate the throttle after initial
launch. Cable throttle systems permitted. NHRA-accepted hand
controls for the physically challenged permitted. Choke cables and
brazed or welded fittings on steel cable prohibited. No part of throttle
linkage may extend below framerails.




Pretty hard to PUSH a cable unless its BIG like on
my steering on my boat(which is 1/2" small diameter)...
but I could be wrong here

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1349133
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Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: RodStRace] #1349134
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Morse cable, like a shifter...
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-P...763984/10002/-1




Yes.. they are a contained housing over the inner...
but I think MOST of us have a free length of inner
cable exposed which if you try to push just flexes
as in the pic above.... granted I use a cable with
twin return springs per NHRA

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: junkyardmaxie] #1349135
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thanks alot for info

Re: cable or solid rod for gas pedal [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1349136
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Mike i agree and understand about pushing on a standard throttle type cable but personally just prefer a cable. there are plenty of rod type setups out there with no problem i just don't like the idea that any engine/chassis movement is converted into a change in throttle position...guess it's just a holdover from the days of engine mount failures

as for the the lokar stuff i just worked on a jeep that had one and imho the stock cable setup is superior

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