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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: hemicop]
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12/06/12 05:49 PM
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VincentVega
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I think it's the difference between the people who like to build cars and the people who like to race cheap
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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12/06/12 06:32 PM
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Phoenix,Az.
hemicop
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once you get into the real race stuff the price difference disapeers.
True, but the Mopar stuff is simply harder to come by. TRY buying Hemi parts or hardcore racing Mopar stuff, then try finding someone who can screw it all together properly. This car stuff is a hobby for me & while all engines suck, bang 'n blow, let's face it--each has their own quirks that seperate a good running engine from a great one. Mopar's, again my opinion, take a little more finesse to assemble & run with a Chevy (not a bad thing) but if you think you're gonna run your smallblock Mopar or Hemi like you run a SBC or BBC, you're crazy. You'll wind up with a bushel of broken parts. THAT'S what I'm talking about.
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: hemicop]
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12/06/12 08:40 PM
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Affton MO
qwkmopardan
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quote: "if you think you're gonna run your smallblock Mopar or Hemi like you run a SBC or BBC, you're crazy. You'll wind up with a bushel of broken parts." You got it mixed up, if you try to run a sbc or bbc like a Mopar you will end up with a bushel of broken parts. The Mopar engines are engineered way more heavy duty than the Chevy junk. Put modern lighter, stronger parts in your Mopar engine they will outrun and out live any similar prepared chevy engine. I have several junkyard block, junkyard headed SB Mopar engines with flat tappet cams, flat top pistons, on gas that will out run many alcohol burning, roller cammed, dome-top piston, aftermarket aluminum headed, aftermarket block sbc in similar weight cars Car in picture has a junkyard block and heads SB Mopar with 1400+ runs and is still going strong. Short block has never been disassembled nor have the heads had a valve job. I changed the valve springs twice and the rod bearings twice after smashing the oil pan doing huge wheelies. The $10000 winnings from the 2008 wheelstand contest at Byron could damn near build 2 more engines just like it. Just won the $2500 FB race Sat. at the turkey trot race in Holly Springs MS 9.68 at 136mph--1.261 60ft.--3050#--factory 360 block and smog year heads from a maxi van church bus at speedway salvage 
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: qwkmopardan]
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12/06/12 08:55 PM
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OhioMopar
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quote: "if you think you're gonna run your smallblock Mopar or Hemi like you run a SBC or BBC, you're crazy. You'll wind up with a bushel of broken parts."
You got it mixed up, if you try to run a sbc or bbc like a Mopar you will end up with a bushel of broken parts. The Mopar engines are engineered way more heavy duty than the Chevy junk. Put modern lighter, stronger parts in your Mopar engine they will outrun and out live any similar prepared chevy engine.
I have several junkyard block, junkyard headed SB Mopar engines with flat tappet cams, flat top pistons, on gas that will out run many alcohol burning, roller cammed, dome-top piston, aftermarket aluminum headed, aftermarket block sbc in similar weight cars
Car in picture has a junkyard block and heads SB Mopar with 1400+ runs and is still going strong. Short block has never been disassembled nor have the heads had a valve job. I changed the valve springs twice and the rod bearings twice after smashing the oil pan doing huge wheelies. The $10000 winnings from the 2008 wheelstand contest at Byron could damn near build 2 more engines just like it.
9.68 at 136mph--1.261 60ft.--3050#--factory 360 block and smog year heads from a maxi van church bus at speedway salvage
Sweet!! 
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: OhioMopar]
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12/06/12 09:24 PM
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Leon441
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I'm sure it was a deal. But, 4.125" bore. That's it. I remember a few years ago once the R3 had came out I could buy the original R blocks for $600 a peice all day long. They will go 4.125" bore with no proble. But, the mopar guys said but so and so says I have to have an R3.
This Chevy block is cheap because they are having trouble selling them. Supply and demand. They have a large supply and can not get a big price. SO they are selling them off cheap. Not to say it is not a good buy or anything.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: Leon441]
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12/06/12 10:06 PM
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Highland beach Fl
poisondart2
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I'm sure it was a deal. But, 4.125" bore. That's it. I remember a few years ago once the R3 had came out I could buy the original R blocks for $600 a peice all day long. They will go 4.125" bore with no proble. But, the mopar guys said but so and so says I have to have an R3.
This Chevy block is cheap because they are having trouble selling them. Supply and demand. They have a large supply and can not get a big price. SO they are selling them off cheap. Not to say it is not a good buy or anything.
I'am not an expert on blocks but I just bought one and Dam it looks nice to me and they go 4.165 My builder had nothing but good things to say about it. Iam thinking about getting a second one for a back up as i have two rotating assemblies for my new little ride. Also let me add to this to say the Chevy guys do have it good as there is so many parts to pick from it is Fun picking them.
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: VincentVega]
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12/06/12 11:37 PM
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I think it's the difference between the people who like to build cars and the people who like to race cheap
racing cheap is an oxymoron...
I call it racing smart 
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: MegaDart]
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12/07/12 09:56 AM
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I think it's the difference between the people who like to build cars and the people who like to race cheap
racing cheap is an oxymoron...
I call it racing smart
 
Rickster
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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12/07/12 10:05 AM
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Western Colorado High Desert
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once you get into the real race stuff the price difference disapeers.
Yeah onece you get into alum. and billet stuff yes but I mean just your normal street/strip or bracket motor.
I don't know i just built a 427 small block chevy bracket motor and it still took 15k.
I just built this 427 SB. The complete machined kit was 8500.00 and another 1500.00 for the cross ram setup. World block and alum heads. Probe pistons. Howard roller cam.
Really sweet motor for the price.
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: moparmarks]
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12/07/12 10:52 AM
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MRMOPAR622
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chevy parts are cheaper because so many different people that make them,everybody and their brother makes good chevy parts.With more sources to buy chevy parts from,the sources have to compete against each other and not only make better parts,but have to sell them at a cheaper price.
Us Mopar racers have only 2 sources if we want to build or buy Fast Hi-Powered engines.Indy or B1 their or enough of us Mopar racers that they don't even have to compete against each other.And most of the Mopar racers try to put either Indy or B1 out of business,and when other companies see this they are not even going to think about making any Mopar parts.
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Re: Chevy guys got it easy.
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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12/07/12 10:58 AM
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bigtimeauto
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chevy parts are cheaper because so many different people that make them,everybody and their brother makes good chevy parts.With more sources to buy chevy parts from,the sources have to compete against each other and not only make better parts,but have to sell them at a cheaper price.
Us Mopar racers have only 2 sources if we want to build or buy Fast Hi-Powered engines.Indy or B1 their or enough of us Mopar racers that they don't even have to compete against each other.And most of the Mopar racers try to put either Indy or B1 out of business,and when other companies see this they are not even going to think about making any Mopar parts.
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