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The front bearing has gone out on the 833. How can I change just this bearing without a complete tear down?


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The front bearing is pressed onto the input shaft. The only way to get the input shaft out is from the inside. Sorry, but it will have to be completly disassembled.
How are you sure the bearing is bad? It might be the rollers inside the back end of the input shaft.

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Bearing or rollers, what's the difference ... the whole thing has to come apart !!!!

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The front bearing has gone out on the 833. How can I change just this bearing without a complete tear down?


What year trans and which gear ratio is in it?I haven't taken a 833 overdrive trans apart yet but I'm almost sure to change the front bearing the trans needs to come apart completely including dropping the cluster gear(counter gear) down by removing the cluster gear shaft I used a piece of a old worn out broomstick cut off to act as cluster gear spacer to hold the needles and spacers in while working on the cluster gear


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Re: 4 Speed help needed [Re: Boosted] #1334275
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The front bearing has gone out on the 833. How can I change just this bearing without a complete tear down?



I have successfully replaced a front bearing before using a combination of different puller parts.You need a good selection of quality puller jaws and parts of a differential side bearing puller.Now that you have the bearing off it's time to slowly drive the new bearing on with an air chisel with a blunt round tip on it.Dial down the power to almost the lowest setting and SLOWLY and CAREFULLY drive it onto the shaft.Make sure it's completely seated and re-install the snap rings and the bearing retainer.
Not for the beginner but it can be done
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I have successfully replaced a front bearing before using a combination of different puller parts.You need a good selection of quality puller jaws and parts of a differential side bearing puller.Now that you have the bearing off it's time to slowly drive the new bearing on with an air chisel with a blunt round tip on it.Dial down the power to almost the lowest setting and SLOWLY and CAREFULLY drive it onto the shaft.Make sure it's completely seated and re-install the snap rings and the bearing retainer.
Not for the beginner but it can be done




I would bet the average joe could do it faster the right way (not to say yours is the wrong way).

Re: 4 Speed help needed [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1334277
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The front bearing has gone out on the 833. How can I change just this bearing without a complete tear down?



I have successfully replaced a front bearing before using a combination of different puller parts.You need a good selection of quality puller jaws and parts of a differential side bearing puller.Now that you have the bearing off it's time to slowly drive the new bearing on with an air chisel with a blunt round tip on it.Dial down the power to almost the lowest setting and SLOWLY and CAREFULLY drive it onto the shaft.Make sure it's completely seated and re-install the snap rings and the bearing retainer.
Not for the beginner but it can be done
Gus




I did it when I was 17/18, when I didn't know any better, with hand tools , it can be done though I don't think I would try it now.
Someone mentioned an OD833 , the bearings on those come off almost by hand , very light press fit , I have taken them booth off with little effort and a big pair of screw drivers.

Re: 4 Speed help needed [Re: Stanton] #1334278
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I have successfully replaced a front bearing before using a combination of different puller parts.You need a good selection of quality puller jaws and parts of a differential side bearing puller.Now that you have the bearing off it's time to slowly drive the new bearing on with an air chisel with a blunt round tip on it.Dial down the power to almost the lowest setting and SLOWLY and CAREFULLY drive it onto the shaft.Make sure it's completely seated and re-install the snap rings and the bearing retainer.
Not for the beginner but it can be done




I would bet the average joe could do it faster the right way (not to say yours is the wrong way).



Well if we are doing it the "right" way then we are replacing all the seals,rollers,bearings,brass,tail bushing,and cluster pin
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