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68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? #1326104
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I have bought my 1st resto project. Its a 68 charger in sad shape, but I hope to fix that. I have thoughts of making it into a dayclona. It came with a 383 single exhaust, air, center console shift auto, basically a very worthless, boring charger., which I won't feal bad about it not going back to. So why not a Daytona? I see there is tons of stuff on the net to rebuild them and/or convert. Question I have is- will it be worth more as a tricked 68 charger or converted fake daytona?

charger or dayclona
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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326105
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My opinion only, you'll get further along $$$ wise by keeping it a charger.
How much money can you spend and how many of the conver$ion part$ do you already have?

Not much worse than a half-baked 'tona or 'bird
Maybe save the daytona for the next car you build.


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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: a12superbee] #1326106
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1968 Charger is THE car.


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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: ArcticCuda] #1326107
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Though I love the Dayclona conversion, I think keeping it a 68 and making it a 440/HEMI clone is the way to go. Throw in a bad azz 440 or HEMI, 4 Speed and go all black and tear it up!

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: CuriousYella70] #1326108
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There are good parts and not so good parts. If you buy all good parts, the clone will be hard pressed to get your investment back. Figure 15K in parts, plus install.
Then there are the 68 stuff that will not look right to the real picky, so changing all that too is going to be even more money.
If you haven't done a bunch of cars before, I'd suggest keeping things simple and just work on getting it running, safe and looking good.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: RodStRace] #1326109
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i'd keep it a Charger. One of the best looking cars on the planet is a '68 Charger. Black with a red R/T stripe.

7436402-Charger.jpg (352 downloads)

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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326110
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The '68 Charger was considered the SHizzz back when it was new, the

magazines even liked it better than the new body Vettes.

Clone the Bullitt Charger, you can't go wrong there.




Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: ArcticCuda] #1326111
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1968 Charger is THE car.





Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: Dan Halen] #1326112
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Thanks guys, you confirmed what I thought. I kinda figured I should keep it a charger, I do think they are a better overall hotrod for overall rodding,draging,etc.
It will indeed be my 1st resto but I have many years of 68-70 mopar b body experience, and many restorer friends. I've had 3- 1970 roadrunners, none of which needed restoring. The 1st I got in 1970, 2 weeks before the 1970 daytona firecraker 400, which was my 1st nascar race to see live. I was 15. The 30 or so winged warriors in that race have burned in my brain ever since. I really want a clona, and don't want to butcher a more valuable charger to make one. I do love the 68 charger, but just a hair less than the daytona, even if it is fake.
Either way I decide I hope you guys will help me with info, tips, etc..
Where is the best deal on dipping it in a vat after I strp it for the rust?
I live in the midsouth. Does amd do that?

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326113
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Can't help with the dipping question, but spend some time researching your options.

If you want to at least learn more about cloning a Daytona, and for more good info on your charger, consider charger.com and the aero car section.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: RodStRace] #1326114
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Can't help with the dipping question, but spend some time researching your options.

If you want to at least learn more about cloning a Daytona, and for more good info on your charger, consider charger.com and the aero car section.




dodgecharger.com

I agree, with a '68 the Bullit is the way to go if you want to clone something.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: Homerr] #1326115
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I have the charger home now and have started thrashing on it. I think it has a 383 in it. I have a pic but need to shrink it, will post as soon as I figure that out. What are some of the obvious visual differences between a 383 and a 318?

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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326116
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318 will have the distributor in the rear, a 383 on up will have it in the front.
Post a picture of the fender tag.


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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326117
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Quote:

I have the charger home now and have started thrashing on it. I think it has a 383 in it. I have a pic but need to shrink it, will post as soon as I figure that out. What are some of the obvious visual differences between a 383 and a 318?




318 (and all small blocks)
Dist in back
Intake seals top of motor
Aluminum front cover that WP bolts onto




383 (and all big blocks)
Dist on right front
intake has a belly pan underneath to seal top of engine
Stamped steel front cover with a WP housing that spans over cover.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: RodStRace] #1326118
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Serial Number decoder
http://dodgechargers.tripod.com/decode.html
Post any pics and fender tag info for more help.

Sounds like you are new to this game. Please take it easy and try not to tear it up and get discouraged. Better to go easy and a step at a time. You can review MuuMuu's thread on his Dart in the Survivor and restoration section.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: RodStRace] #1326119
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RGR THT. THNX. Looks like I got a big block 383 4bbl,. single exhaust seems odd. I will post pics soon. vin#xp29g8b------..

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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: RodStRace] #1326120
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Thnx for learning me on the motor, I have never looked at a 318. But I didn't remember any single exhaust 383 chargers. I am new to restoring, and its been many years since my last mopar. I never messed with any other motors except the 383. Glad to see it is a 383, but is it a 383 that I can make big hp with or is it a motor that can't be beefed up a lot? I think I read it is 330hp or something wimpy like that.

Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326121
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Good luck on the restoration/restification. Going the Daytona route would produce a VERY cool car, but being that the parts to clone out to a Daytona and the fact the car's a '68 would mean more costly mod's. Your biggest bang for the buck would make it into a cloned R/T in whatever paint scheme you'd like....

Have fun !!!


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Re: 68 charger conversion to 69 dayclona ? [Re: daytona kid] #1326122
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Quote:

Thnx for learning me on the motor, I have never looked at a 318. But I didn't remember any single exhaust 383 chargers. I am new to restoring, and its been many years since my last mopar. I never messed with any other motors except the 383. Glad to see it is a 383, but is it a 383 that I can make big hp with or is it a motor that can't be beefed up a lot? I think I read it is 330hp or something wimpy like that.




actually it's a 383 2bbl rated at 290hp, BUT the good news is that Mopar (unlike most other makes) didn't have alot of differences between their HP motors and their regular ones. Your 383 is capable of producing as much power as you want, from an aluminum headed 500+ hp stroker to a nice healthy 350 - 400hp street 383.

My first thought when I read the first few posts was that this is a perfect car to do a clone with. I agree with the others that '68 is the best looking Charger and it will always be worth a little less as a clone Daytona being a '68 instead of a '69 as well as requiring more work to appear correct.

Now that it's a big block car, I'd restore it as a 383 Charger and just spice up the motor and add some R/T bits like the HP manifolds, intake, carb, dual exhaust, etc. The one thing I've always said about the Chargers is that compared to a Coronet/Superbee, the base Charger gets the gauges and has no special hood for the R/T so I'm much more inclined to buy a 383 Charger over a 383 Coronet 500 for eg.

Anyhow, good luck with the car whatever you decide to do. There is always someone on Moparts that can answer just about any question so don't be shy and make sure you have a thick skin.


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I am leaning a little more toward all 68 charger r/t, after reading here and looking at them more., I'd like it double black with red tail stripe. But the thought has crossed my mind to put 70 front fenders/hood/cap on it in case I ever want to put a nose and wing on it. I don't want to think about putting in the rear window, looks like way to much work. Or I could just go ahead with all 68 r/t and buy a 70 front cap, and nose and wing etc., to have for it (or another) later if I ever can build a clona. I worry that the parts to make a clona may become less available in the future.

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