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Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1315016 10/05/12 06:39 AM 10/05/12 06:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,914 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,914 United Socialist States of Ame...	I have bought some stuff from Hughes and Kevin is always a pleasure to deal with. I will be buying thier 1.6 rockers for my Victor heads. Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315017 10/05/12 09:26 AM 10/05/12 09:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy FlyFish super stock
FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	Quote: Thanks Rod Yeah I had read that a while back, regards the treating. I know these particular rockers are different than the I believe it was Probe stuff they used to carry or maybe still do. Just looking at what options are out there for roller cams on stock style heads that don't require clearancing and can hold up to probably 550-600 spring pressures The HS stuff doesn't impress me and requires being whittled on to run 1.55 springs from what I have heard. Just FYI, those rockers will barely clear a 1.50 spring (depending on who you talk to). You will have to cut them to get a 1.55 in there. 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: FlyFish] #1315018 10/05/12 12:17 PM 10/05/12 12:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 OP I Live Here
B3422W5 OP I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Ouch..... I had outstanding luck with Jesel spotsman series stuff on my W5 motor, ran them for years, and the new owner still does. They hit 8k a number of times by mistake..lol..and never an issue.Sweet bulletproof stuff. So.....I decided to call Jesel, and find out what if anything they offer for a standard style head, turns out they have an offering. Its part number KPS 09749 these require milling the stands to fit( an operation they offer for 100 bucks a head, you send the heads, they set them up. These arent the sportsmen series, they are pro series, and are 1600 bucks a set complete..Will handle 800 spring pressure, and clear a 1.600 spring( larger than would even be required) with no clearancing. Not cheap, but at least an alternative i wasnt aware existed. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315019 10/05/12 12:38 PM 10/05/12 12:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I run these hughes on my bigblock and they have worked great for me. I actually traded my brother for them but I have bought a few other things from Hughes and they were very nice to me and treated me well. Ron

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315020 10/05/12 12:47 PM 10/05/12 12:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 - R RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer
RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Just a little clarification on my end... What I made reference to was NOT just one phone call... This was after multiple attempts to get the situation ironed-out... No doubt, everyone has an off day... This was well beyond an off day... Once again, never again...

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: RSNOMO] #1315021 10/05/12 12:58 PM 10/05/12 12:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	I get what your saying,...... I know a few guys have butted heads with Dave. Sorry to hear you had issues with him. I have dealt with some people from other companies that I have had issue with it can really get frustrating. Just sharing my experience with him. Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: moparacer] #1315022 10/05/12 05:45 PM 10/05/12 05:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Indiana 6 65dragnet super stock
65dragnet super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Indiana	Quote: Quote: After talking(or should I say, TRYING to talk) to 'em on the phone... NEVER AGAIN... Went with Harland's and ain't looking back... You too? I just called them earlier in the week and I was a little put off by the attitude to say the least. I ran the same set as 383man posted a pic of and I could never keep the adjusters from backing out. Yes their customer service guy was a smart ass. Looks are deceiving ! Go Harland s E. Williams 65 Coronet 500 3400lbs w/d, 446, Indy EZ'S, A&A transbrake,Comp 650 lift cam, 6.50 @ 105 mph 1/8th 10.25 @ 130mph 1/4

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315023 10/05/12 05:50 PM 10/05/12 05:50 PM
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moparlifer member M Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 187 good ole USA	I think Dove makes their rockers and they use Pioneer valve springs, not good performance parts!!

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: moparlifer] #1315024 10/05/12 06:00 PM 10/05/12 06:00 PM
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64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Quote: I think Dove makes their rockers and they use Pioneer valve springs, not good performance parts!! They might be Probe pieces... Poor performance parts are GREAT performance parts if you have the right salesman. Just don't argue with him, he knows best...

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: 64Post] #1315025 10/05/12 06:18 PM 10/05/12 06:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 OP I Live Here
B3422W5 OP I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Quote: Quote: I think Dove makes their rockers and they use Pioneer valve springs, not good performance parts!! They might be Probe pieces... Poor performance parts are GREAT performance parts if you have the right salesman. Just don't argue with him, he knows best... These new ones that are 649.00 treated are a new offering, not the chinese stuff they had before as the only choice. But i could be wrong. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: tboomer] #1315026 10/05/12 06:20 PM 10/05/12 06:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,277 West Coast, USA jbc426 master
jbc426 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,277 West Coast, USA	Quote: I have bought some stuff from Hughes and Kevin is always a pleasure to deal with. I will be buying thier 1.6 rockers for my Victor heads. Always great customer service over the last 8 years. They know mopars! 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: 65dragnet] #1315027 10/06/12 12:31 AM 10/06/12 12:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: Quote: After talking(or should I say, TRYING to talk) to 'em on the phone... NEVER AGAIN... Went with Harland's and ain't looking back... You too? I just called them earlier in the week and I was a little put off by the attitude to say the least. I ran the same set as 383man posted a pic of and I could never keep the adjusters from backing out. Yes their customer service guy was a smart ass. Looks are deceiving ! Go Harland s My eng has been in my 63 since June last year and I have not had any adjuster come loose. I adjusted the valves once and all were tight. Ron

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315028 10/07/12 09:49 AM 10/07/12 09:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Years ago Hughes sold Dove's rockers, but later changed to Probe's parts. When Probe got out of the rocker arm business w/in the last couple of years, Hughes picked up the tooling / whatever from Probe to have the Mopar rockers made. I've run the Probe/Hughes stuff on the street for thousands of miles w/ 400#s open pressure (solid flat-tappet + Schubeck lifters). I'm in the process of putting together my first solid roller motor that will have 600#s open pressure and have bought new Hughes rockers to use w/ my new Victor heads. I'll be keeping a close eye on the valve train, regardless, but expect the rockers should be OK from my experience to date.

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: BradH] #1315029 10/07/12 10:04 AM 10/07/12 10:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	65Dragnet I forgot to say that I only run a solid flat tappet as I dont know if you were running a roller when you had your adjusters loosen up ? Ron

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: moparlifer] #1315030 10/09/12 06:04 PM 10/09/12 06:04 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 270 Washington, IL H Hughes enthusiast
Hughes enthusiast H Joined: May 2004 Posts: 270 Washington, IL	Dale, Probe hasn't made our rockers for years. They are made here in the Midwest using the exact same extrusions that T&D and Jesel uses. Only of a few of the smaller cams are using Pioneer springs. Most of the performance cams use Manley or PAC springs. Kevin 7414005-HughesEnginesLogowith3small.jpg (73 downloads) www.hughesengines.com

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: Hughes] #1315031 10/09/12 07:56 PM 10/09/12 07:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	So I see two kits for the 1.5 rockers. when should we use the Cryogenically treated ones ?

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: VernMotor] #1315032 10/09/12 07:59 PM 10/09/12 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 OP I Live Here
B3422W5 OP I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Hughes.... How much clearancing to fit a 1.55 roller spring 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: B3422W5] #1315033 10/09/12 08:11 PM 10/09/12 08:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Our rockers will clear 1.625" diameter valve springs without cutting or grinding. (When the geometry is correct) that what it says ?

Re: Has anybody ran those Hughes rocker arms [Re: VernMotor] #1315034 10/09/12 08:13 PM 10/09/12 08:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Sorry thats big block did not read the small block stuff

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