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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: ROADRCR]
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09/22/12 10:50 PM
09/22/12 10:50 PM
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RapidRobert
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Something is wrong. I'd make a mark 2&1/4" clockwise from the TDC slit which is 35.5 degrees and have your helper who is manning the light turn the housing to that point when it fires (with vac adv capped). Definitely PULL the thermostat & keep it out for breakin. As said lean could do it but someone the other day said that if too RICH the extra fuel could be burning in the header tubes. Any potential carb issue that you can see? Where was it timed at?
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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: cjskotni]
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09/22/12 10:52 PM
09/22/12 10:52 PM
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get a timing light..have it hooked up and ready to go..set timing conservatively ...
have a hose with spray nozzle ready to go to spray radiator..
couple of simple things that go along way..should be part of the basis start up of a new engine.
Tony
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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: ROADRCR]
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09/22/12 11:30 PM
09/22/12 11:30 PM
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RapidRobert
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. Distributor is MSD E-Curve I took off my other SB which I set at their recommended dial settings for start up. For timing purposes while breaking in the engine and holding revs to say 1500 to 2000 rpm where should timing be?
did that dist work with the start up dial settings when you broke in the other SB? got another dist setup you can sub in to get past the breakin?. 35 with vac adv capped. EDIT I'd keep the RPM at least 2000 if not higher. The more I think about the more I'd bet on timing, something with the MSD box.
Last edited by RapidRobert; 09/22/12 11:38 PM.
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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: ROADRCR]
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09/23/12 01:53 PM
09/23/12 01:53 PM
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Posts: 27,471 So Cal
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WP is working. Engine fired up immediately barely 1/2 turn and she was running and sounded strong with no back fire or popping. I added carb spacer which I will remove for break in since it might contribute to lean condition. Distributor is MSD E-Curve I took off my other SB which I set at their recommended dial settings for start up. For timing purposes while breaking in the engine and holding revs to say 1500 to 2000 rpm where should timing be? Carb is same Demon that I used on other SB and ran great.Thanks to all he offered advice I appreciate it.
Did the engine run smooth or rough like a mis-fire?
Are you running a MSD Solid State coil? The SS coil?
Did you run that coil with the E-curve in your last motor?
If this is the first time using a MSD SS coil with your E-curve, PUT A REGULAR OIL FILLED COIL ON IMMEDIATELY.
Other than the first batch of E-curve distributors, the E-curve will not work with an Solid State Coil. Took me two distributors and a trip to SEMA to figure that out from MSD themselves.
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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: ROADRCR]
#1309049
09/23/12 04:32 PM
09/23/12 04:32 PM
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Lefty
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What would make the header tubes get so hot the wrap would catch fire this soon?
Spark happening too late. The fuel air charge is still burning during the exhaust stroke in the head pipes. Turn the engine over till it's on the compression stroke and at the initial timing mark you want to run. Then make sure the dist is turned so the rotor tip is pointing at the center of the #1 cylinder plug wire. That should be very close when you start it.
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Re: Engine start up woes
[Re: RodStRace]
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09/23/12 07:23 PM
09/23/12 07:23 PM
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bobs66440
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one more thing not mentioned; while many of us have fired up a fresh engine in the driveway or garage without it, a BIG fan in front of the car helps too.
Agreed. I used a fan and had a hose ready to spray the radiator as mentioned...which I had to do a few times during the 30 min break-in.
Are you running adjustable rocker arms or stock?
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