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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: autoxcuda] #1304090
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The sanctioning body is AMRA. As of now, no GM LS engines being ran. It is just a matter of time though, I believe. Steel blocks are mandatory.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304091
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The sanctioning body is AMRA. As of now, no GM LS engines being ran. It is just a matter of time though, I believe. Steel blocks are mandatory.




GM parts was experimenting with an LS motor at our track a couple years ago. For a possible higher HP level ZZ4 type crate motor deal.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: autoxcuda] #1304092
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what tranny a falcon, bert,or a glide? that had to be some work and money to set that motor set up for that kinda racing, what rpm you guna turn it

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Cheatham] #1304093
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There is few guys that run the 525 crate LS motor in mods around here. In fact one guy won a few USMTS races and people started crying about the lighter weight. They made him add weight at the mid plate and he still won. He finally put a mod spec motor in and won with that too. After that people quit crying.

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There is few guys that run the 525 crate LS motor in mods around here. In fact one guy won a few USMTS races and people started crying about the lighter weight. They made him add weight at the mid plate and he still won. He finally put a mod spec motor in and won with that too. After that people quit crying.




When we switched to ZZ4 crates years ago same thing happened with us. We were the first to run them. They added weight, we won. Some other racers switched over. But we still won. Then other racers whined that our motor was "special".

So one night after we won, a guy says "I want THAT motor" So we said ok, buy us a new one and you can have THAT one right NOW. So we yanked the motor right after tech and handed it too him.

Soon all the cars coverted to crate motors and were paying $10K less for motors, turned less RPM, and lasted much longer.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Cheatham] #1304095
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what tranny a falcon, bert,or a glide? that had to be some work and money to set that motor set up for that kinda racing, what rpm you guna turn it




It has a Bert transmission/bellhousing/starter set-up. Also, a belt driven pump on the rear of the engine for the engine oil, fuel system, and power steering. The engine oil system is not a dry sump. The oil is still stored in a custom built pan with an external pick-up line. The flywheel was the hardest part of the arrangement. I worked with Bert to get the bolt pattern correct. The bellhousing is the same on the Hemi as an LA motor. After Bert did their best to get the crank bolt pattern as close as they could, I still had to modify it to get it to align properly. I ended up sending them a stock flex-plate. Hopefully, the next builder won't have any problems getting their flywheel right the first time they order.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304096
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what tranny a falcon, bert,or a glide? that had to be some work and money to set that motor set up for that kinda racing, what rpm you guna turn it




It has a Bert transmission/bellhousing/starter set-up. Also, a belt driven pump on the rear of the engine for the engine oil, fuel system, and power steering. The engine oil system is not a dry sump. The oil is still stored in a custom built pan with an external pick-up line. The flywheel was the hardest part of the arrangement. I worked with Bert to get the bolt pattern correct. The bellhousing is the same on the Hemi as an LA motor. After Bert did their best to get the crank bolt pattern as close as they could, I still had to modify it to get it to align properly. I ended up sending them a stock flex-plate. Hopefully, the next builder won't have any problems getting their flywheel right the first time they order.


I had good results using JW a few years back seems like it was a stock item for them but it was a 340. That dodge will stir things up but we know its driver and chassi set up that will win no matter what brand of power.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Cheatham] #1304097
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what tranny a falcon, bert,or a glide? that had to be some work and money to set that motor set up for that kinda racing, what rpm you guna turn it




It has a Bert transmission/bellhousing/starter set-up. Also, a belt driven pump on the rear of the engine for the engine oil, fuel system, and power steering. The engine oil system is not a dry sump. The oil is still stored in a custom built pan with an external pick-up line. The flywheel was the hardest part of the arrangement. I worked with Bert to get the bolt pattern correct. The bellhousing is the same on the Hemi as an LA motor. After Bert did their best to get the crank bolt pattern as close as they could, I still had to modify it to get it to align properly. I ended up sending them a stock flex-plate. Hopefully, the next builder won't have any problems getting their flywheel right the first time they order.


I had good results using JW a few years back seems like it was a stock item for them but it was a 340. That dodge will stir things up but we know its driver and chassi set up that will win no matter what brand of power.




I have used the JW 'wheel' in the past. It works fine with a stock type starter/bellhousing.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304098
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Really cool, what track does that dude race at?

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The local/closest tracks are Skyline Speedway, Hilltop(the legendary), Ohio Valley, Jackson County, Interstate, West Virginia Motor Speedway, Tyler County


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304100
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Looks like a screamer


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How often do the engines themselves get hurt in crashes? Don't know if that is a factor when chosing an engine - replacement engine parts from crash damage.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Shoozy] #1304102
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Supposed to test the car at 9 AM Saturday,,weather permitting,,I will take MY camera. Then, maybe, I can post some good pics of this thing!!

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