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Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: Challenger 1] #1303602
09/15/12 03:00 PM
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I've never had pistons that would not come out.

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Used properly it won't ruin a engine block.




Correct. But it is amazing how often they are not used properly. And not being used properly usually starts with someone doing a rebuild for cheap.

Again, they dont need to be used.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: BSB67] #1303603
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I also agree that one slip up with the ridge reamer and you'll be boring it.

Sheldon

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1303604
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I also agree that one slip up with the ridge reamer and you'll be boring it.

Sheldon




Usually they don't even know that they screwed it up. It will still assemble and run.

The few that I have seen needed to be overbored 0.040" or 0.060" just to cover up the affect of a R.R. used on a std bore block.

Maybe my limited experience is not representative.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: BSB67] #1303605
09/15/12 04:29 PM
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I don't think I ever used a ridge reamer without boring the block afterwards.

If it has a big enough ridge to keep the pistons from coming out, then it needs to be bored in most cases, wouldn't you all agree?

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: Blakcharger440] #1303606
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....I was going to use a ridge reamer....




I suggest that you don't do this. Nothing good will come from it, will likely ruin or make worse the top ring seal, and could ruin the block. Probably the worst tool ever made.





The ridge is approximately .002 to .005.


If I dont use the reamer will it hurt the new rings that I put on the stock pistons when the engine is running?

What grit should I use on the cylinders for cast iron rings? [/quote

No it wont hurt the rings, the ridge is there because the cylinder is worn down and the ridge is where the rings didnt touch.As long as the stroke and pistons are the same it will not touch the ridge.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: challengermike] #1303607
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....I was going to use a ridge reamer....




I suggest that you don't do this. Nothing good will come from it, will likely ruin or make worse the top ring seal, and could ruin the block. Probably the worst tool ever made.





The ridge is approximately .002 to .005.


If I dont use the reamer will it hurt the new rings that I put on the stock pistons when the engine is running?

What grit should I use on the cylinders for cast iron rings? [/quote

No it wont hurt the rings, the ridge is there because the cylinder is worn down and the ridge is where the rings didnt touch.As long as the stroke and pistons are the same it will not touch the ridge.




What about getting the pistons out and then back in without hurting the rings or the ring lands on the piston with a ridge at the top?

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: Challenger 1] #1303608
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You could use a three legged hone to take the ridge down.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: stumpy] #1303609
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i've seen plenty of rebuilt 440's locally for sale ,probably less than all the BS you would go through trying to save a few $$$,recently there was a completely rebuilt 383 with less than 2000 miles with rebuilt 727 for $2200 obo

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: CUDA8U] #1303610
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Sounds like the good ole days of taking a good running motor and doing rings, bearings, gaskets and freezeplugs are gone?


Keep old mopars alive.
Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: 2boltmain] #1303611
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No, I just think the original poster has not done enough of this stuff to know what will fly, and what won't.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: buildanother] #1303612
09/16/12 11:17 AM
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No, I just think the original poster has not done enough of this stuff to know what will fly, and what won't.




I agree but you have to start somewhere. Im sure we all started out doing rerings and gaskets. Nothing wrong with just freshing it up.

Re: Low buck 1975 440 engine overhaul.... [Re: 2boltmain] #1303613
09/16/12 12:24 PM
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Sounds like the good ole days of taking a good running motor and doing rings, bearings, gaskets and freezeplugs are gone?




Depends how worn the cylinders are. If they're bad, the results from a backyard hone'n're-ring job might be very mediocre.

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