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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: p d'ro]
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09/12/12 10:02 AM
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Ok, so I am pretty sure to get to the rearmost, driver's side exhaust manifold bolt I have to unbolt motor mount and jack the motor. THe steering is in the way and I can't get a socket or wrench on it. Does anyone have any better idea? Is there a shallow socket or some special tool that goes into the well that the bolt is in and clears the steering?? Damn!
Me thinks the fastener, a bolt with a long shoulder that fits into the exhaust manifold hole with a end on it like a nut that is flat on the end, is missing   I don't have anymore of those fasteners so I can't take a picture of it and show you what I'm trying to describe,IE a picture is worth a thousand words  It may be that the stud has been snapped off by a previous owner or mechanic, or it may missing only 
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: moparmike1]
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09/12/12 10:16 AM
09/12/12 10:16 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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I've got a 72 B-body and there's an opening in the inner fender just before the firewall, covered by a flexible piece. After removing the flexible cover, I was able to put an extension and socket on the manifold to headpipe bolts.
I don't have a picture handy and trying to describe this without a picture is a little difficult.
Do you understand what I'm trying to explain?
Mike.
not sure they are the same. here is a inner fender for a 67 B-body. The inspection plate is low..not sure it will be of use in this case.
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: p d'ro]
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09/12/12 10:16 AM
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Ok, so I am pretty sure to get to the rearmost, driver's side exhaust manifold bolt I have to unbolt motor mount and jack the motor. THe steering is in the way and I can't get a socket or wrench on it. Does anyone have any better idea? Is there a shallow socket or some special tool that goes into the well that the bolt is in and clears the steering?? Damn!
Do you have the long tubenut that goes in that hole ? there are 2 similar , but longer nuts , that are also used on the right side manifold .
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: JohnRR]
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09/12/12 10:20 AM
09/12/12 10:20 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Ok, so I am pretty sure to get to the rearmost, driver's side exhaust manifold bolt I have to unbolt motor mount and jack the motor. THe steering is in the way and I can't get a socket or wrench on it. Does anyone have any better idea? Is there a shallow socket or some special tool that goes into the well that the bolt is in and clears the steering?? Damn!
Do you have the long tubenut that goes in that hole ? there are 2 similar , but longer nuts , that are also used on the right side manifold .
here's what he's talking about.
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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09/12/12 11:01 AM
09/12/12 11:01 AM
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I've got a 72 B-body and there's an opening in the inner fender just before the firewall, covered by a flexible piece. After removing the flexible cover, I was able to put an extension and socket on the manifold to headpipe bolts.
I don't have a picture handy and trying to describe this without a picture is a little difficult.
Do you understand what I'm trying to explain?
Mike.
not sure they are the same. here is a inner fender for a 67 B-body. The inspection plate is low..not sure it will be of use in this case.
Ok, sorry. Hope it works out for the OP.
Mike.
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: p d'ro]
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09/12/12 11:37 AM
09/12/12 11:37 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Guys, thanks for all of the input. My floor jack is dead so that is why I was asking for other tips. Will get new one soon. I am not sure I can jack it up enough to get it anyway. The steering is so close to the manifold that I can't even get a wrench-less socket on it. The installer did not use a tube nut on this one, so the head is recessed into hole slightly, so wrench won't work.
how did he get the manifold to seal if he didn't use the correct fastener? I'd try and find the correct piece before you jack up the motor. I'll see if I have one, if I do you can have it.
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: p d'ro]
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09/12/12 12:11 PM
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Thanks. I did supply him with all new correct bolts. SOme are tube bolts, but it doesn't seem like it was used on this location. THere are 5 tube bolts at other locations and just nuts on the three others. I don't think there was room for the tube bolt here, but I can't find a diagram that shows which one goes where??
it's easy to tell which one goes where because you can't put the short ones in a hole where a long one needs to go and the long ones will hang a inch plus past where a short one needs to be used.
It sounds like whomever installed it didn't put in the stud and just used a long bolt and washer ...
good luck
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: JohnRR]
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09/12/12 12:19 PM
09/12/12 12:19 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Thanks. I did supply him with all new correct bolts. SOme are tube bolts, but it doesn't seem like it was used on this location. THere are 5 tube bolts at other locations and just nuts on the three others. I don't think there was room for the tube bolt here, but I can't find a diagram that shows which one goes where??
it's easy to tell which one goes where because you can't put the short ones in a hole where a long one needs to go and the long ones will hang a inch plus past where a short one needs to be used.
It sounds like whomever installed it didn't put in the stud and just used a long bolt and washer ...
good luck
if this is the case, you will need to drain the block before you remove the bolt.
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Re: Tighten 440 Drivers Exhaust Manifold Bolt 67 R/T
[Re: p d'ro]
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09/12/12 03:30 PM
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No lock washers, just what came in the kit. Just got off the phone with him and he thinks that I have 68-69 HP manifolds and that if I had the right ones it wouldn't be an issue. Ok, so he suggested loosening the steering up, as jacking the motor may damage my welded exhaust system.. Bummer. Was hoping to find something like a brake wrench whose opening extended out a little to get on the nut..
67 drivers side is different than 68 and up , pass side is the same 67-69 .
Do you know what the number is on the manifold you have ? I think the 67 uses 2 tube nuts on the drivers side where the 68-9 uses only one ??? 68-9 uses the short tube nut and it is on the stud second in from the rear .
I add lockwashers , but have never had one loosen up that didn't have them.
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