Hello everyone,
I recently looked at a '70 Hemi Cuda project car but I have a few questions regarding identifying it as a legit Hemi car. Everything looks correct, but I want to make sure. I am a B-body guy and E-body's are something new to me. The car was a race car almost since day one so a bunch of stuff is missing that would help identify it. It is a 4 speed car. Here is what I saw:

'70 Cuda with correct VIN tag, door sticker, cowl number, and radiator support number. I did not get a chance to check the number on the trunk lip.

Hemi k-member with skid plate.

Dana 60

"Hemi fender" tag but I have not seen the actual "fender tag" although he states he has it.


What was not there because it was removed early in its life:

3/8" fuel line, 3 spd wiper motor, and correct radiator.

Does anyone have a picture of the correct E-body pinion snubber plate and the torque boxes. I think they are different than the B-body stuff.

It is a manual steering car. The car also has manual drum brakes. Did they make Hemi Cudas with 4 wheel drum brakes?

That's about it. There seems to be lots of paperwork with the car. I just want to have all the information I need when I go back to look at the car.

Thanks.

Stan

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I did not get a chance to check the number on the trunk lip.

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E-bodies do not have them.

B11 - HD drum brakes standard. Power disc brakes optional.

If you want to email with the VIN I can check to see if I know anything about it for you.

Barry,
I will see if I can get a photo of the VIN as well as the fender tag over the next couple of days.

Thanks.

Stan

since your taking pics-take one of the shaker cable hole on the firewall-see if it`s got the thick spacers on the trans mount and the spacers for the 15 inch wheels on the control arm rubber snubber things.
also the trunk floor spare tire hold down rod. some of these items are not unique to hemicudas but if something isn`t right it will open a can of something...it shouldn`t have wheel arch mouldings and the front fenders were modified on the upper wheelarch-that`s why it`s got a hemi fender tag. more than likely made later in the 70 year-i`m sure someone will have an approximate date when they started adding the extra tag i think it was about feb march 1970.
make sure you get the numbers from the engine and trans too.
all the best
frank

Early cars did not have the "hemi fender" tag and they did have the wheel lip mouldings.

i believe you. thanx for that.
frank.

Barry,

I sent you a picture of the door VIN decal.

Thanks.

Stan

Should all Hemi Cudas have come with 150 mph speedometers? This one has a 120 mph speedometer.

Stan

i know of a 70 hemicuda with what is known as a standard dash not the ralley dash.
if the car your looking at has a standard dash with no tach check where the roadlamp switch is located on the dash. it also shouldn`t have n85 on the tag for tachometer.
all the best
frank.

The standard dash was a standard item on all 70 Cuda models, Hemi or otherwise. The Rallye gauge package was an option. I don't have an exact count (nor do any solid numbers exist) but it seems I've seen more original Hemi Cudas with standard gauges than with Rallyes, it was common.

i don`t want to change the thread but does a standard dash accept a variable speed wiper switch? i`m sure i tried to put one into a standard dash once and had to file something to make it fit. shaker cars couldn`t use a two speed wiper so what does the hemicuda have as a wiper setup?
all the best
frank

....Are you guys saying all Hemi Cudas had wheel lip moldings or are you saying it was an option??

as alaskan t/a pointed out (and i didn`t know this) but some had wheel lip mouldings and i believe most did not have wheel lip mouldings-if the one in question had a hemi fender tag i believe it didn`t have wheel lip mouldings. the front fenders were different to standard fenders and the wheel lip mouldings couldn`t attach in the upper middle area.
all the best
frank.

All early hemicudas had wheel lip mouldings through at least mid October 1969 production. I assume that they discontinued them because of labor cost. Each front moulding had to have the center portion hand trimmed for tire clearance. I assume they used a band saw or something like that because the trimmed portion was not finnished very nicely.

There is a thread here on Moparts from the actual guy that folded those fenders over. I believe at Creative Industries??.

I think/hope it is archived here.

Do the wheel lip molding scenarios also apply to all 15" rim cars like 340 'Cudas? If so, do that have a molding vs non molding cutoff rough date/timeline?

My Hemicuda build date Oct 30 1969 has no hemi fender tag (Should not). Has its "original" Wheel Lip moldings that never were modified (should of been). My fenders are modified (All Original sheet metal).

I believe that all 1971 HemiCuda's do not have / never came with wheel lip moldings. I have yet to see an original build sheet listing wheel lip moldings on a 1971 Hemicuda.