Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Brake dragging when hot... #1294633
08/31/12 03:44 PM
08/31/12 03:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
MoparMarq Offline OP
super stock
MoparMarq  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
'01 Durango. Front discs, rear drums. Right front brake dragging bad when hot. Worse after brake application. After driving a bit (presumably some cooling is occurring), it seems not to drag as much.
Left front is fine - no dragging.
This morning in garage with front end off the ground - overnight cool, both wheels turn freely.

Several months ago, replaced rubber hoses with Goodridge braided stainless steel hoses, properly bled, no dragging, and worked fine. Could that have anything to do with it?

Maybe the caliper is hanging up when hot?

Wheel's off now, nothing obvious jumping out.

As always, TIA.
-Marq

Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: MoparMarq] #1294634
08/31/12 03:52 PM
08/31/12 03:52 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 100
Tennessee
M
meep_meep Offline
member
meep_meep  Offline
member
M

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 100
Tennessee
It's most likely the braided hoses, or a seized caliper/caliper pins...I've had bad luck using braided lines on a daily driver..They just dont last..

Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: meep_meep] #1294635
08/31/12 03:56 PM
08/31/12 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
B
bboogieart Offline
master
bboogieart  Offline
master
B

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
my vote is the caliper


I have mechanical Aptitude.
I can screw up anything.
Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: bboogieart] #1294636
08/31/12 04:01 PM
08/31/12 04:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
MoparMarq Offline OP
super stock
MoparMarq  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
On closer inspection, the dust boot is expanded out and split in one place...

Maybe time for a trip to Napa for a caliper...

I'd go to Rockauto, but the shipping both directions for the core would kill the price advantage.

Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: MoparMarq] #1294637
08/31/12 04:23 PM
08/31/12 04:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
B
bboogieart Offline
master
bboogieart  Offline
master
B

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
They can be rebuilt. It's just a seal and a boot. Compressed air gets it apart. Hone the cylinder and install the new parts.
Tons cheaper.


I have mechanical Aptitude.
I can screw up anything.
Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: bboogieart] #1294638
08/31/12 04:48 PM
08/31/12 04:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,312
SoCal
68HemiB Offline
master
68HemiB  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,312
SoCal
Quote:

They can be rebuilt. It's just a seal and a boot. Compressed air gets it apart. Hone the cylinder and install the new parts.
Tons cheaper.






Down to just a blue car now.
Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: 68HemiB] #1294639
08/31/12 05:16 PM
08/31/12 05:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
B
bboogieart Offline
master
bboogieart  Offline
master
B

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
Quote:

Quote:

They can be rebuilt. It's just a seal and a boot. Compressed air gets it apart. Hone the cylinder and install the new parts.
Tons cheaper.









Your saying you never heard of a brake hone befor?
If it's just sticking it can be cleaned up easily, no problem. If it's pitted then replace it. That is why rebuild kits exist. Most are affraid to rework brake parts or run lines for some reason but it is just simple plumbing for the most part.
I have rebuilt several with no misshaps.


I have mechanical Aptitude.
I can screw up anything.
Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: bboogieart] #1294640
08/31/12 05:33 PM
08/31/12 05:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,312
SoCal
68HemiB Offline
master
68HemiB  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,312
SoCal
Having seen a brake hone before, my confusion was about the seal contact area being upon the cylinder wall, rather than on the outside of the piston.


Down to just a blue car now.
Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: 68HemiB] #1294641
08/31/12 06:31 PM
08/31/12 06:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
MoparMarq Offline OP
super stock
MoparMarq  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
Reman'd unloaded caliper was only 60 bucks. Had a pentastar logo on it.

Not sure if that will do the trick or not, as other auto issues demand attention. BUT, when I got the old caliper off, the slideways on the spindle for the brake pad ears did have some ridges on them. Placing the pads in position in the spindle without the caliper in place and putting forward pressure on them to simulate pad reaction to rotation of the rotor made them very difficult to move laterally because of the ridge on the top slideway. I'm thinking that was the real problem. So, I dremel sanded the ridges off, dabbed some grease on before replacing the caliper/pads. We'll see how it goes...

My 8 YO helper was not here to help with bleeding, so pumped it up myself, then used a short 2x4 wedged between the pedal and electric seat to hold the pedal down to bleed it. Crude, but seemed to work.

anti-rattle clip... [Re: MoparMarq] #1294642
08/31/12 06:36 PM
08/31/12 06:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
MoparMarq Offline OP
super stock
MoparMarq  Offline OP
super stock

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,168
Vancouver, WA
Same vehicle. Is the anti-rattle clip really necessary? It seems like it places a non-trivial off-axis load on the caliper, actually promoting a piston jam in the bore, because of the off axis load. I don't care about rattle, but I do care about dragging brakes. Seems like Ehrenberg said at one time that the clip wasn't necessary.

Any thoughts?

Re: Brake dragging when hot... [Re: 68HemiB] #1294643
08/31/12 06:40 PM
08/31/12 06:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,196
Harrisburg, Pa.
screamindriver Offline
master
screamindriver  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,196
Harrisburg, Pa.
Unfortunately the durango has the most horrible factory calipers I've had the pleasure of owning...The piston eventually breaks off at the piston/pad contact areas and leaves the caliper needing some hard parts for the rebuild...And if you're going in you might as well change-out the hose so you're not back in there any time soon...

Here's a quick check : When the front brake locks up loosen the bleeder...If it shoots the fluid out and the caliper releases it's the hose...If no fluid comes out and it does'nt release the caliper is cooked...Good luck !!!

Re: anti-rattle clip... [Re: MoparMarq] #1294644
08/31/12 06:42 PM
08/31/12 06:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Quote:

Seems like Ehrenberg said at one time that the clip wasn't necessary.
Any thoughts?


I believe he did recommend to toss em


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1