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Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1289100
08/21/12 04:07 PM
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A way to have a rotisserie really fast. Works great....you can lift the car from one side, then from the other.

I do have a rotisserie but we do this at the shop all the time when we want to do something quick without mounting the whole car.

Or its a great way to do a driver quality car.

great for blasting, etc.

Even painting the underside.




If thats a 2 ton unit your overloading the crane. Slide the boom back in at least one position.




You guessed wrong!!!! Where it is set up it good for 1 TON.

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: flypaper] #1289101
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Use support it any other way if you are gonna be working under the car and thats it.....

Also if you will be spraying paint, use a respirator and dont inhale the fumes, and if you are gonna do some welding be sure to use goggles or a welding mask if not youre gonna hurt your eyes.

If you are going to use a cherry picker never install an engine with it or the chain might snap, or a bolt fail, or the hyd piston and fall on your freshly painted car, or your hand, or you.....still ive done it hundreds of times....nothing ever happened. Of course i dont like to lay under an engine thats being lifted with a cherry picker.....but i wont say inwont use one to install an engine because its dangerous and it might fail.

1000 lbs???? No chance!!!!! How much does a stripped shell with suspension weigh????






if you owned a shop like that in the states
osha would shut you down and own you..lol




But I dont!

And I can turn out jobs like this, which Im sure most of the US shops cant!

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Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: domingo] #1289102
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Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: gtx6970] #1289103
08/21/12 04:21 PM
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Thats a lot of weight hanging on a single 1/2" fine thread bolt with no safety support of some kind under it?



not even 1/2". Seat belts use 7/16" fine threads.
A safer method would be pass a chain or cable through a body plug hole and into a thick piece of steel underneath. I don't think stressing the seat belt anchor is a great idea since you may need that seat belt to be strong in the event of a crash.

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: demon] #1289104
08/21/12 04:31 PM
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OK guys. This is a useless idea. Discard it....people will die otherwise.

This is the load a seatbelt will take if crashing at a fixed object with a stopping distance of 1 foot if traveling at 30 mph.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/seatb.html

bolt strength....fine is even stronger than coarse. http://dodgeram.org/tech/specs/bolts/SAE_bolt_strength.html

Like I said, its a different and easy way of doing it. I do it, and it works. Its all I can say. Of course always watch out for your own safety, cant hurt. Will this kill you? Not likely.

This is my last post!

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: domingo] #1289105
08/22/12 12:42 AM
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That is soooo hillbilly. This is how we "roll" in Cleveland. This is 1985, mind you. I was 18.. These are single matresses off of my sisters beds.. lol Domingo, you are still one of my heroes.



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Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: sunroofgtx] #1289106
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Take the spray gun with red oxide primer away from that guy!! lol

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: domingo] #1289107
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I do have a rotisserie but we do this at the shop all the time when we want to do something quick without mounting the whole car.



Shortcuts, eh?
OK. I understand how your shop works now...

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: Commando1] #1289108
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I do have a rotisserie but we do this at the shop all the time when we want to do something quick without mounting the whole car.



Shortcuts, eh?
OK. I understand how your shop works now...





Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: Challenger 1] #1289109
08/22/12 10:30 AM
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I'm with you, time matters and sometimes you have to take chances. It don't scare me a bit, I think it's been done before and will be done again.




Gary,
sorry but I dis-agree.

Life matters. Life is way to short as it is to speed up the process.
A really good friend of mine died 'taking a shortcut'. All because instead of taking 30 seconds and walking around a running farm tractor, he decided to step over a spinning driveshaft that was running a conveyer rig. And it cost him his life. The driveshaft snagged a loose piece of thread on his coverall pants leg and proceded to beat him to a pulp breaking virtually every bone in his body before squeezing him out of his coveralls like a banana. I found out about it the next day when his dad called me at work.

That was Dec 6th 1992 and to this day I get this feeling in my bones like someone is tapping on my shoulder when I'm getting to 'take shortcuts'

Could the same thing happen here or are the scenarios the same? No.
But it's only going to take one simple / miniscule thing to go horribly wrong to change your thought process about safety. And when it does, you will spend the rest of your life thinking what could have been done better

Domingo
My sincerest apologies for the hijack,, and absolutly no dis-respect meant in any way.
But it just gets a little personal for me.

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: gtx6970] #1289110
08/22/12 11:55 AM
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Most of us has an engine hoist taking up space. My shop is 20x40 so storage of a tool that next week I will have used 2 times for it's intended use in the last five years is hard to justify. Your tip has added another potential use for it and I say Thanks. Now I know I must be the only person who has skipped some of the safety practices that would be recommended to all who perform any tasks in the pursuit of my hobby, such as safety glasses and shoes, correct masks, goggles, all things welding requires the certification, and correct ventilation and lighting, storage of all materials correctly and the list goes on forever. I grew up watching my dad working on a dirt spot with a bumper jack and concrete block 50 years ago and now I know why he hollered "Get Back" so many times when I wanted to help. I stop working if someone enters my shop as I consider it a dangerous place where someone could be injured, likely me. But I was there this morning at a little past seven drug out a chair and finished my coffee and then cleaned up last nights mess left when I pulled the door closed after ten tired and confused. A phone call about the passing of a friend of cancer brought me from the shop to the computer to see if any arrangements were posted and I ended up here. So everyone back to work and lets be safe out there!

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: cmansell] #1289111
08/22/12 01:02 PM
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Domingo, thanks for showing us.

I understand everyone's point of view, but whatever anyone does on their own is their business. Don't bash him because of this. I may try it I may not.

On another topic, I will be getting in touch with Domingo about replaceing sheet metal for advice! Nice cuda!

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: gtx6970] #1289112
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I'm with you, time matters and sometimes you have to take chances. It don't scare me a bit, I think it's been done before and will be done again.




Gary,
sorry but I dis-agree.

Life matters. Life is way to short as it is to speed up the process.
A really good friend of mine died 'taking a shortcut'. All because instead of taking 30 seconds and walking around a running farm tractor, he decided to step over a spinning driveshaft that was running a conveyer rig. And it cost him his life. The driveshaft snagged a loose piece of thread on his coverall pants leg and proceded to beat him to a pulp breaking virtually every bone in his body before squeezing him out of his coveralls like a banana. I found out about it the next day when his dad called me at work.

That was Dec 6th 1992 and to this day I get this feeling in my bones like someone is tapping on my shoulder when I'm getting to 'take shortcuts'

Could the same thing happen here or are the scenarios the same? No.
But it's only going to take one simple / miniscule thing to go horribly wrong to change your thought process about safety. And when it does, you will spend the rest of your life thinking what could have been done better

Domingo
My sincerest apologies for the hijack,, and absolutly no dis-respect meant in any way.
But it just gets a little personal for me.




No problem on this end...

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: flypaper] #1289113
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Nope, there are only 900 inspectors in the United States. They will only respond to accidents, not some guy in a small shop unless there is an injury. Tim

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Use support it any other way if you are gonna be working under the car and thats it.....

Also if you will be spraying paint, use a respirator and dont inhale the fumes, and if you are gonna do some welding be sure to use goggles or a welding mask if not youre gonna hurt your eyes.

If you are going to use a cherry picker never install an engine with it or the chain might snap, or a bolt fail, or the hyd piston and fall on your freshly painted car, or your hand, or you.....still ive done it hundreds of times....nothing ever happened. Of course i dont like to lay under an engine thats being lifted with a cherry picker.....but i wont say inwont use one to install an engine because its dangerous and it might fail.

1000 lbs???? No chance!!!!! How much does a stripped shell with suspension weigh????






if you owned a shop like that in the states
osha would shut you down and own you..lol



Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: astjp2] #1289114
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Nope, there are only 900 inspectors in the United States. They will only respond to accidents, not some guy in a small shop unless there is an injury. Tim

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Use support it any other way if you are gonna be working under the car and thats it.....

Also if you will be spraying paint, use a respirator and dont inhale the fumes, and if you are gonna do some welding be sure to use goggles or a welding mask if not youre gonna hurt your eyes.

If you are going to use a cherry picker never install an engine with it or the chain might snap, or a bolt fail, or the hyd piston and fall on your freshly painted car, or your hand, or you.....still ive done it hundreds of times....nothing ever happened. Of course i dont like to lay under an engine thats being lifted with a cherry picker.....but i wont say inwont use one to install an engine because its dangerous and it might fail.

1000 lbs???? No chance!!!!! How much does a stripped shell with suspension weigh????






if you owned a shop like that in the states
osha would shut you down and own you..lol






Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: Challenger 1] #1289115
08/22/12 11:40 PM
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Far too many holier than thou buttheads on this board. Great idea. I plan to use it some day. Thanks


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Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: Challenger 1] #1289116
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In regards to the bolt, whats the difference between the seatbelt bolt holding the body, and the bolt holding the chain to the boom on the hoist.
Lift it up, prop it up with fabbed up jack stands, and leave the hoist on for safety's sake. What's there to worry about once you have some safety measure in place.
In the end it's a quick way to get the body in a position to work on without the investment in an expensive garage fixture for 95% of the people with cars.

Domingo, thanks for the backyard idea! Some will appreciate it for what it is.

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: domingo] #1289117
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It's official. I thought I had seen it all. I was wrong.

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: BarrsRestoration] #1289118
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It's official. I thought I had seen it all. I was wrong.



In regards to what?

Re: Poor Man's rotisserie: 5 minute deal. [Re: Commando1] #1289119
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I do have a rotisserie but we do this at the shop all the time when we want to do something quick without mounting the whole car.



Shortcuts, eh?
OK. I understand how your shop works now...




Boy- that's a cheap shot if I ever saw one. Domingo and his guys have more talent in their pinky fingers than MOST on this board, I have PERSONALLY seen the quality of their workmanship/metal fabrication skills- which are second to NONE! I think an apology is in order- but I'm sure you'll take the low road vs. the high- and just take another shot at Domingo- or myself. We'll just consider the source.

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