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P.S. box painted?? #1285622 08/15/12 03:12 AM 08/15/12 03:12 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh H His and Her 69's OP pro stock
His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	Is the power steering box on my 69 lynch rd RR supposed to be painted black or natural??

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1285623 08/16/12 12:33 AM 08/16/12 12:33 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh H His and Her 69's OP pro stock
His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	96 views and No Answers??? Anyone ???

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1285624 08/16/12 06:44 AM 08/16/12 06:44 AM
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Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: ] #1285625 08/16/12 08:05 AM 08/16/12 08:05 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA RoadRunnerJD master
RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	Natural

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1285626 08/16/12 08:38 AM 08/16/12 08:38 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 322 MERRILLVILLE, INDIANA S sunroof446 enthusiast
sunroof446 enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 322 MERRILLVILLE, INDIANA	Most everyone I have seen have been natural. The only one that I have seen black Is on my 70 charger st. louis bulid august of 69 but it is a factory show car. That might have something to do with it. I would say natural.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1285627 08/16/12 08:47 AM 08/16/12 08:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 582 PA B BTTG mopar
BTTG mopar B Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 582 PA	https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: BTTG] #1285628 08/16/12 08:50 AM 08/16/12 08:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,406 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,406 It's a dry heat	I have a 1969 Charger R/T in the shop - SBD is July 4th 1969 and it was painted gloss black (not sure what plant) Date on the box 7337313-steering-box-date.jpg (65 downloads) Last edited by gtx6970; 08/16/12 08:55 AM.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: gtx6970] #1285629 08/16/12 11:13 AM 08/16/12 11:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY RJS master
RJS master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY	I used to believe they were natural but now I believe they should be Black. I base this on friends car's that were restored by high end restoration shops and research over the years. Did mine Black in my 69 and when mine returns from Steer and Gear I'll paint it Black for my 70 GTX. Ron.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: RJS] #1285630 08/16/12 11:34 AM 08/16/12 11:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW drmopar master
drmopar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW	They look nice in Natural powdercoat, but black is correct. I have a NOS unit in my 69 Convertible RR and it is black. -------------------- RM27H9G 4 speed F8/tan guts RS27L9G auto B5/black guts WM23H9G auto F5/green guts 2021 Challenger 392 Indigo/black guts 2019 Charger Daytona R/T F8 on black 2018 Ram Sport Hemi 4x4

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: drmopar] #1285631 08/16/12 01:10 PM 08/16/12 01:10 PM
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62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	You'll never convince me on either.I have two cars both with the original box and they are both natural cast.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1285632 08/16/12 09:46 PM 08/16/12 09:46 PM
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RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1285633 08/17/12 12:20 AM 08/17/12 12:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,523 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,523 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	I have always gone black, now I can't go back! The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1285634 08/19/12 09:34 PM 08/19/12 09:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana D Dave Watt master
Dave Watt master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana	I just had a conversation with my dad. He hired on at Chrysler in September 1965 at the Shadeland Avenue Plant in Indianapolis Indiana. His only job until April 1969 was testing power steering gearboxes for all the Chrysler products. After the test was done, he would hang the box from an overhead conveyor that went through a paint booth where they all got painted black. According to him, this was the way the line was until sometime in the early '70's when the EPA regulations made it too expensive to paint them. There were times when an issue might arise in the plant where processes were temporarily changed due to breakdowns. A possibility exists that if the paint booth had an issue that the paint process was skipped, but according to him, they had a way to place them offline until the line was going again. There are obviously original untouched cars that have painted and unpainted boxes, so the best advice is to study the one on your car before restoration.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: Dave Watt] #1285635 08/19/12 11:15 PM 08/19/12 11:15 PM
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Paul Jacobs super stock P Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,039 INDIANA	Dave, What a wealth of information your dad could be to this board! Anyway, I agree most, if not all, were black. My thought is that like the sway bars & leaf springs, the boxes had an oily film on them that caused the paint to come off very prematurely-leading to the misconception they were bare metal. Having said that, I will never say never to a Mopar. I'm sure some got through without paint by a lazy employee.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: Dave Watt] #1285636 08/20/12 01:49 PM 08/20/12 01:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: I just had a conversation with my dad. He hired on at Chrysler in September 1965 at the Shadeland Avenue Plant in Indianapolis Indiana. His only job until April 1969 was testing power steering gearboxes for all the Chrysler products. After the test was done, he would hang the box from an overhead conveyor that went through a paint booth where they all got painted black. According to him, this was the way the line was until sometime in the early '70's when the EPA regulations made it too expensive to paint them. There were times when an issue might arise in the plant where processes were temporarily changed due to breakdowns. A possibility exists that if the paint booth had an issue that the paint process was skipped, but according to him, they had a way to place them offline until the line was going again. There are obviously original untouched cars that have painted and unpainted boxes, so the best advice is to study the one on your car before restoration. Learn something new every day... ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: Troy] #1285637 08/21/12 06:13 PM 08/21/12 06:13 PM
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72ls5fla enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 238 Florida, US	Not to intrude on the OP -- But does anyone know if the manual boxes were left natural or painted? I think natural, but far from an expert here..... If this is a silly question, sorry for asking.. Bill Got me a NEW Project 1970 GTX 440+6, 4 spd, 4.10 Dana and N96 FE5 (top/bottom) and black bucket interior. Original transmission and Dana - Engine is a service replacement block. Body has all stamped #s + VIN/TRIM tag and door sticker. Been hunting like all hell to find the Build Sheet. garage find, only had 41,850 miles on ODO.

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: 72ls5fla] #1285638 08/22/12 11:51 AM 08/22/12 11:51 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Natural on manual boxes; read the thread linked in BTTG's post. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1285639 08/23/12 09:20 PM 08/23/12 09:20 PM
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copperSwinger member C Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 85 New Brunswick Canada	Black in this 1970 Technicians Video. (interesting video too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRD2_ln_8XM&feature=plcp at 2:58 you can see paint drip lines indicating how the unit was oriented when painted too. Hope this helps

Re: P.S. box painted?? [Re: copperSwinger] #1285640 08/24/12 09:13 AM 08/24/12 09:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,632 Nashville, TN M MOPARMIKE69 master
MOPARMIKE69 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,632 Nashville, TN	That video is proof positive that the PS box was black. Doesn't get any more concrete that that. Thanks for sharing 69 Road Runner vert 69 GTX hard top 70 Road Runner 4 speed 70 Hemi Cuda vert

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