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What primer for underside????? #1277750
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I have a Charger project that im completeing undercoat removal (full factory undercoat), im just finishing up all the nooks and crannies.

Im wondering what type of primer to use?, i plan to at least paint the wheel wells and partial frame rails if not the whole underside.

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I have heard of people using epoxy primer. On a side note could you share the specs on your rotessire? Wall thickness and sizes? I need to build one

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Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: haddixj] #1277752
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tried to email you plans to rotiserie but returned as spam. please email me as the plans are the best.
all the best
frank.

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: 1cuda] #1277753
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Did you just remove the undercoating? Or sandblast as well? If there is bare metal showing if use epoxy primer. If the original epoxy primer is still present and in good shape you could just scuff and spray high build on it.


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Hi the rotesserie is home made by a very good welder and metal fabricator but he made it to do a resto on a 68 GtS vert and i fabicated a few fixtures to adapt it for a B body.

I used the typical propane torch on the under coating and bad gas to saturate the undercaoating too, for the nooks and crannies so to speak i used a scaller(harbor freight sells them) its like a mini hammer with prongs that vibrate and it works GREAT!

Thanks for the epoxy answer i was told to use self etching but that applies like water. Thanks and heres a few more pics, before....

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: superbeeman69] #1277755
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www.restorick.com

They carry a grey dip primer mixed to match the originals color


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Most cuurent pics of underside...

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Heres a another pic of the jig...

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: Thread Ender1] #1277758
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Use the Epoxy, Not the etch.

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Clean...

Don't see quarters like that here too often...

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: Thread Ender1] #1277760
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ZERO RUST! Resto Rick told me sbout it and it works. Many colors and it is affordable. Works well and can apply paint right to it. No need for etch.


Persistance is omnipotent Durability Engineer, Chair and Couch division...
Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: 4boxers4] #1277761
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I no longer sell Zero-Rust.

I now have a polyurethane paint finish that goes on super smooth with the correct color & sheen and gives full corrosion protection. I recommend applying it over SPI epoxy primer which has chromates and etching properties.

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: RestoRick] #1277762
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Is your car an LA Plant car? If it is than the dip coating was not the typical medium grey color, it was a very dark, nearly black, shade of grey.

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..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty

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Quote:

..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty





Yes, and then spray the entire thing with undercoating.

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: burdar] #1277765
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Quote:

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..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty





Yes, and then spray the entire thing with undercoating.




I know it's the Resto forum but still...epoxy the under side, seam seal, high build primer, color, clear. Or for a driver, epoxy prime, seam seal, and undercoat. I like 3m body Schulz sprayed about 12-14 inches away. Leaves a nice even texture and overspray on the rockers for a factory appearing look. If you want it a little heavier like OEM try 8inches or so, just watch how fast your moving your arm.

Not saying the "correct" factory primer color and texture doesn't have it's place..it does..but more so on rare 100pt restos. If you plan on driving it I dont see much sense in going that far in duplicating the OEM process. Not for the underside at least.

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Quote:

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..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty





Yes, and then spray the entire thing with undercoating.




I know it's the Resto forum but still...epoxy the under side, seam seal, high build primer, color, clear. Or for a driver, epoxy prime, seam seal, and undercoat. I like 3m body Schulz sprayed about 12-14 inches away. Leaves a nice even texture and overspray on the rockers for a factory appearing look. If you want it a little heavier like OEM try 8inches or so, just watch how fast your moving your arm.

Not saying the "correct" factory primer color and texture doesn't have it's place..it does..but more so on rare 100pt restos. If you plan on driving it I dont see much sense in going that far in duplicating the OEM process. Not for the underside at least.




If you are going to paint the bare underside metal with something, why not use a finish paint that appears like dull grey primer but performs similar to exterior paint. There are some industrial greys out there.

The factory appearing undercoating that Resto Rick and Baldeson sells looks very correct, but it really is durable. Seems to perform and function better or as well as the 3M stuff. Works just as well on 100pt resto or Street Rod.

100pt resto or not, about the same effort.

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Is your car an LA Plant car? If it is than the dip coating was not the typical medium grey color, it was a very dark, nearly black, shade of grey.


Its a Hamtramack built car, it looks to be a industrial gray under the undercoating with drips included.

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: burdar] #1277768
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..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty





Yes, and then spray the entire thing with undercoating.


This is Cali no need for that ugly tar undercoating, i want the bottom to be able to eat off of.

Re: What primer for underside????? [Re: autoxcuda] #1277769
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Quote:

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Quote:

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..your in the restoration forum.
..medium grey primer and over spray that beauty





Yes, and then spray the entire thing with undercoating.




I know it's the Resto forum but still...epoxy the under side, seam seal, high build primer, color, clear. Or for a driver, epoxy prime, seam seal, and undercoat. I like 3m body Schulz sprayed about 12-14 inches away. Leaves a nice even texture and overspray on the rockers for a factory appearing look. If you want it a little heavier like OEM try 8inches or so, just watch how fast your moving your arm.

Not saying the "correct" factory primer color and texture doesn't have it's place..it does..but more so on rare 100pt restos. If you plan on driving it I dont see much sense in going that far in duplicating the OEM process. Not for the underside at least.




If you are going to paint the bare underside metal with something, why not use an finish paint that appears like dull grey primer but performs similar to exterior paint. There are some industrial greys out there.

The factory appearing undercoating that Resto Rick and Baldeson sells looks very correst, but it really is durable. Seems to perform and function better or as well as the 3M stuff. Work just as well on 100pt resto or Street Rod.

100pt resto or not, about the same effort.


Thanks i do like the idea of where its not blue painting it with gray paint.

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