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Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop #1276463 07/30/12 09:19 AM 07/30/12 09:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD p d'ro OP pro stock
p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Well I finally got my new 67 440HP motor installed, engine compartment painted and a few other things done. Never had $$ to do it when had original paint done. Yes, I know. The belt is a generic one and I need to do the wiper motor (Jules is in my future). Fender tag in my wallet right now. What stands out that needs to be done still? Not looking for factory exact, but maybe immediate improvement. Good news it with 100 miles it withstood a traffic jam threw Harpers Ferry, WV yesterday in 90 degree heat and held 195�. Then found that it is now ripping second gear with a takeaway in drive. Sweet. Bad news is I was told not to take down new ragtop for two more weeks to stretch it. Is this normal?? Thanks, Pete 7313469-IMG-20120729-00024[1].jpg (128 downloads) Last edited by p d'ro; 07/30/12 09:46 AM.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276464 07/30/12 09:20 AM 07/30/12 09:20 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	One more... 7313470-IMG-20120729-00025[1].jpg (120 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276465 07/30/12 09:22 AM 07/30/12 09:22 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	other side 7313473-IMG-20120729-00023[1].jpg (119 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276466 07/30/12 09:34 AM 07/30/12 09:34 AM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Looks good, Battery sticks out like a sore thumb

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: AdamR] #1276467 07/30/12 09:36 AM 07/30/12 09:36 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 top fuel
bobs66440 top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Looks great! Very tidy

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: AdamR] #1276468 07/30/12 09:52 AM 07/30/12 09:52 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Thanks, Yeah, may geet one of those silly covers for it as I was in rush to get it back when battery died. It has been gone since Apr 11 for this work. Bodyguy had a personal tragedy and I gave him some leeway working thru his issues. Great guy and does great work. Still things undone, but happy to have it back for what is left of summer. Keep pointing out things. Thnaks, Pete

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276469 07/30/12 11:13 AM 07/30/12 11:13 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The things that jump out to me are: ignition wires, looms, battery, belt, oil breather, incorrect master cylinder and also the master should be black as they were painted with the booster. Everything else look nice and clean.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: ] #1276470 07/30/12 11:23 AM 07/30/12 11:23 AM
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az426john mopar A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 493 Arizona

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276471 07/30/12 11:26 AM 07/30/12 11:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Also looks like a 68 and later style washer bottle? Alternator stator ring should be natural bare steel with a brownish clear coat laquer coating (not black or red as painted many are). Exhaust manifolds were painted with the engine and most burned away, etc. Not trying to be a critic, just helpful, car looks beautiful!

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: ] #1276472 07/30/12 11:42 AM 07/30/12 11:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A.	Wrong bolt on the upper alternator mount , bolts holding the thermo housing should be engine color ...

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: JohnRR] #1276473 07/30/12 01:48 PM 07/30/12 01:48 PM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Guys, this is what I asked for. Guy wanted to do all of that stuff, but we had to stop due to personal circumstances. He did an R/T that won Carlisle in 2009, so he knows how it should be. I want to know as I may be doing these things myself and I wanted to tap this wonderful resouece. Thanks, Pete

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276474 07/30/12 02:03 PM 07/30/12 02:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny 0 05dakota I Live Here
05dakota I Live Here 0 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny	winning at carlisle doesnt prove he knows his stuff. its a peoples choice show.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: 05dakota] #1276475 07/30/12 02:04 PM 07/30/12 02:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny 0 05dakota I Live Here
05dakota I Live Here 0 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny	if it was mine i would remove stickers from battery, replace the belts, and at least get black plug wires. 5549 post on old board

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: 05dakota] #1276476 07/30/12 02:17 PM 07/30/12 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A.	Quote: winning at carlisle doesnt prove he knows his stuff. its a peoples choice show. I think Carlisle did have a real judged show at one point, not just peoples choice.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: JohnRR] #1276477 07/30/12 04:05 PM 07/30/12 04:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny 0 05dakota I Live Here
05dakota I Live Here 0 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,861 albany ny	the standard of modified excellance crap wasnt a judged show.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: 05dakota] #1276478 07/30/12 04:24 PM 07/30/12 04:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Totally Auto's "Standard of Excellence" but compared to what? Cars they didn't restore?

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: AdamR] #1276479 07/31/12 07:28 AM 07/31/12 07:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 984 Tennessee H Hemi ragtop super stock
Hemi ragtop super stock H Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 984 Tennessee	Quote: Looks good, Battery sticks out like a sore thumb Rather than use a cheap cover, buy a MOPAR repro battery (Mancini). They are dry cell like Ultima and although expensive, mine deos a great job. Wires and looms yes. Stay away from "production" fan belt repros. Mine would not stay on pulley. Aftermarket will keep you from being stranded with overheated Motor. Pic is my 66 Coronet convertable. And yes, you need to keep the top stretched for a couple of weeks. Park it in the sun for a few hours will help the top take a "set". 7314872-DSCN0093.JPG (50 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: Hemi ragtop] #1276480 07/31/12 09:17 AM 07/31/12 09:17 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	For now I will take off the stickers. I like the look of the Mancini battery, but will probably keep belts after that story. We have had so many clouds lately it is hard to find sun. The good thing is that the Carlisle car is an original owner car that has retained all orig parts, and it is there for a reference. My next pick-up are the uncut rear convertible interior panels and the 4327s carb. Thanks for the tips. Pete

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: ] #1276481 07/31/12 12:28 PM 07/31/12 12:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 92 Detroit L L7VERT member
L7VERT member L Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 92 Detroit	I've seen several cars with boosters that remained yellow cad. Did it vary by plant?

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: L7VERT] #1276482 07/31/12 01:16 PM 07/31/12 01:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: I've seen several cars with boosters that remained yellow cad. Did it vary by plant? No, not with that style booster, they were all painted black with the booster as an assembly, it's a (very) common restoration mistake to detail and paint the master cyl cast iron grey wit the unpainted gold cad lid.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1276483 07/31/12 02:21 PM 07/31/12 02:21 PM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	When I got this car it was plumbed for the master cylinder on the wrong side. Not knowing, I ordered the correct replacement. Obviously it has the holes on the wrong side. Not able to do the lines at the time, I just ordered the generic Cardone replacement with holes on both sides. It has the right shape. My car came stock with factory discs. I switched to the MP Brakes kit because my calipers were leaking and I couldn't find anyone to rebuild them at the time (4 years ago), plus pads are easier to get for the A body style brakes. Still have original stuff in garage. Bendix? Last edited by p d'ro; 07/31/12 02:21 PM.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1276484 08/02/12 12:57 PM 08/02/12 12:57 PM
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L7VERT member L Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 92 Detroit	Yep, didn't look at the picture closely enough. The disc brake booster is different than the Midland-Ross power drum booster. Not trying to hijack the post, but what is the correct installed finish for the drum booster? As I mentioned, I've seen several that were still wearing the original yellow CAD. P'dro, by the way, beautiful car.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276485 08/03/12 01:22 AM 08/03/12 01:22 AM
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SILVER67 super stock S Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 784 Liverpool, NY	Lot better than my '67 R/T... Michael 7319544-IMG_2173.jpg (61 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: SILVER67] #1276486 08/03/12 09:38 AM 08/03/12 09:38 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Thanks for the compliments. I would love a silver B-body. And would take a 4spd over my column auto. This thing cruises like a Caddy though. Real easy to drive. I still have to do the interior, but everything else has been touched. I left the factory undercoating, which saved the car. A Wisconsin cars without one patch in orig. floors and trunk. Silly. I am not sure about the brakes, but there is a stock, one owner 67 GTX around here with a gold MC. Owner says it is orig., but that is hard to believe that he just kept rebuilding it all these years. I am chasing a miss in my new motor. Wires seem square. Will get my distributor recurved by Don at FBO, but I think the new paint in engine compartment may have led to a poor ground for chrome ECU hid under battery. 7319740-coronet1.jpg (48 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: p d'ro] #1276487 08/04/12 07:01 AM 08/04/12 07:01 AM
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Hemi ragtop super stock H Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 984 Tennessee	As regards you "miss", Definately make shure you have a good ground on not only the chrome box, but ANYTHING that grounds to the engine bay after paint. My car did fine after assembly, at first. Then, miles from home, it refused to start. After chasing my tail for several weeks, I put a jumper wire from neg batt to solenoid and WALA! Lesson learned, ALWAYS use star washers beween freshly painted surfaces and ANYTHING that requires a ground. 7321114-DSCN0091.JPG (36 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: p d'ro] #1276488 08/06/12 11:33 AM 08/06/12 11:33 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	So I added a few wire looms and ran a ground wire from ECU mounting screw to - wire on battery and the miss is gone. Next step to send distributor to FBO for a recurve and get correct 4327s Carter restored. Does anyone reading this kow the best place to by the choke control that is mounted in the intake (for the orig. carb?)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: p d'ro] #1276489 08/06/12 11:45 AM 08/06/12 11:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	If you have your original choke I can restore it as well as the carb, no extra cost for the choke.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor [Re: Hemi ragtop] #1276490 08/07/12 11:36 AM 08/07/12 11:36 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Quote: As regards you "miss", Definately make shure you have a good ground on not only the chrome box, but ANYTHING that grounds to the engine bay after paint. My car did fine after assembly, at first. Then, miles from home, it refused to start. After chasing my tail for several weeks, I put a jumper wire from neg batt to solenoid and WALA! Lesson learned, ALWAYS use star washers beween freshly painted surfaces and ANYTHING that requires a ground. Thanks for the advice. My guy did use those, but when re-mounting the ECU it was put right against the inner fender with no spacer and just screws. I don't think it got good contact, for some reason. Or else the issue was my wires. Off topic, my car looks like a glorified Hot Wheel, whereas your car looks SINISTER! I like having 15" magnum 500s and redlines, but it almost takes attention away from the car. I hate the stock 67 wheels so not sure what to do there. T

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1276491 08/07/12 11:46 AM 08/07/12 11:46 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Quote: If you have your original choke I can restore it as well as the carb, no extra cost for the choke. It will be coming your way. Can you work with this? Will it work ok in hot climate? I have no room for spacer with stock air cleaner. 7325773-4327sCarterCarbA7001.jpg (50 downloads) Last edited by p d'ro; 08/07/12 11:47 AM.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: p d'ro] #1276492 08/07/12 11:46 AM 08/07/12 11:46 AM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	another 7325775-4327sCarterCarbA7002.jpg (68 downloads)

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: p d'ro] #1276493 08/07/12 12:05 PM 08/07/12 12:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes, not a problem.....I've worked with a lot worse! Should run just fine in your climate built to stock specs. Be careful packing it, I raccomend double boxing as it's metal but it's cast metal and will break if slammed against something hard. BTW that tag looks like a couple more bends and it will break off.

Re: Engine Compartment and New motor for 67 R/T Ragtop [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1276494 08/07/12 01:15 PM 08/07/12 01:15 PM
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p d'ro OP pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Will do. I ship a lot of stuff and have plenty of bubble wrap. What gaskets are recommended to go back on with the Carter? Is there some Bakelite thing?

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