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Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: Sledge_57] #126924
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the first time the tranny was apart was over the winter and after that is when they started, the front drum was wiped out, so now i have another new one in there and still now change




I have a question now. Are you saying the problem started after the trans was put back together with a new front drum?

If so maybe the drum is bad and out of balance



yes and i replaced it with another drum to have the same affect

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Re: vibration update on the cuda #126926
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For what its worth I have the same problem with my 73 Challenger. The vibration is rpm related to driveshaft speed. This is why the speed which it occurs changes with gear ratio. I have changed,balanced,swapped the following. Rear pigs & ratios,axles,drums,wheels & tires,driveshafts,trans & engine mounts. The difference is mine is a 4 speed. I can push the clutch in and it still vibrates. My u-joint angles mirror each other +1.5,-1.5. The only part I haven't swapped is the transmision. My bellhousing is dialed in both on center and square to the crank within .005". Sounds very similar. My bet (though I've never seen it) is the problem lies inthe outputshaft/tailshaft area.
Doug

Re: vibration update on the cuda #126927
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maybe the nut behind the wheel needs to be tightened



thats is Fred you don't get anymore pix with Andrea LMAO

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: dvw] #126928
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For what its worth I have the same problem with my 73 Challenger. The vibration is rpm related to driveshaft speed. This is why the speed which it occurs changes with gear ratio. I have changed,balanced,swapped the following. Rear pigs & ratios,axles,drums,wheels & tires,driveshafts,trans & engine mounts. The difference is mine is a 4 speed. I can push the clutch in and it still vibrates. My u-joint angles mirror each other +1.5,-1.5. The only part I haven't swapped is the transmision. My bellhousing is dialed in both on center and square to the crank within .005". Sounds very similar. My bet (though I've never seen it) is the problem lies inthe outputshaft/tailshaft area.
Doug



do you still have this problem?

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126929
09/28/08 09:42 AM
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i think the rpms are around 5200 at 80, this is with 4.30s



That can't be right unless your converter is slipping real bad or your tires are about 20" tall. Should be well over 100 MPH at 5200 rpm.

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the only other part that i didnt change was the flex plate. it is a b&m externally balanced pc. i didnt see any cracks and it didnt look to be bent. the converter holes lined up perfect also



Any chance it lost a balance weight?

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Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: GomangoCuda] #126930
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i think the rpms are around 5200 at 80, this is with 4.30s



That can't be right unless your converter is slipping real bad or your tires are about 20" tall. Should be well over 100 MPH at 5200 rpm.

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the only other part that i didnt change was the flex plate. it is a b&m externally balanced pc. i didnt see any cracks and it didnt look to be bent. the converter holes lined up perfect also



Any chance it lost a balance weight?



thats why i said i think lol there are no weights on the converter. i just got the converter back from getting a freshening up too

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126931
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im just hoping that its not the motor somehow

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126932
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lol there are no weights on the converter. i just got the converter back from getting a freshening up too




I thought the 360 converter had a weight welded
on it to compensate for the crank weight

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: MR_P_BODY] #126933
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lol there are no weights on the converter. i just got the converter back from getting a freshening up too




I thought the 360 converter had a weight welded
on it to compensate for the crank weight




the b&m flex plate takes car of that, it has a big half moon cut out of it

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Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126934
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Are the input and output shaft in the trans the same or were they changed? I have a friend that had a vibration problem with his chevy. It turned out to be a slighly bent input shaft in the trans. Next time the trans is apart put the shafts between centers and check them.

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126935
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That B&M flexplate cold be it, I've had problems with mine and other people on this site have too.

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: GomangoCuda] #126936
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the only other part that i didnt change was the flex plate. it is a b&m externally balanced pc. i didnt see any cracks and it didnt look to be bent. the converter holes lined up perfect also



Any chance it lost a balance weight?




They don't add weight to them , they remove the required amount of weight 180* off from where you need to add the weight to get the desired result .

Re: vibration update on the cuda #126937
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That B&M flexplate cold be it, I've had problems with mine and other people on this site have too.




Good point Mike , I'd take the flexpalte to a machine shop and have it checked .

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126938
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Why was the transmission rebuilt? Could be a bent main shaft.

Did you change the stock pinion angle? If so, how did you do it?

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126939
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Bushing replaced in tailshaft housing? Also hows the tranny mount?

Randy

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: JohnRR] #126940
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the flex plate is my next try, just sux im gonna pull the trans again, but i am really getting good at it LOL

i really appreciate all the feed back guys

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: B1HEAD_USER] #126941
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Are the input and output shaft in the trans the same or were they changed? I have a friend that had a vibration problem with his chevy. It turned out to be a slighly bent input shaft in the trans. Next time the trans is apart put the shafts between centers and check them.



they both have been changed, the only thing thats the same is the housing itself, even changed the tail housing

Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: cudadan] #126942
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Bust your u-bolts loose and check the spring perches. I had one come loose on mine. After putting in a new driveshaft and fixing the sprag I drove the car and it drove like crap. However, everything passed the visual check. The weld had a hairline on it that didn't look like anything. Removing the u-bolts showed it was busted completly loose from the housing. Could be your pinion angle is going wild when going down the road, and returns to normal when under no load(due to a busted perch).

Would be an easy check before pulling the trans.


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Re: vibration update on the cuda [Re: Bad340fish] #126943
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I would run it without a shaft.Make a dummy plug out of an old yoke and a plate to keep it from backing out. Run the car at the rpm it vibrates and shift 2-3 a couple times.Remember not to hit park,just shut it off. What happened to the original front drum? Did the bushings and washers look ok? Hows the end play?

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