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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264017
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I had a 440 with a tunnel ram where the rear carb was dripping fuel into the 6/8 ports and I didn't know it. I leak down tested and thought I had a blown head gasket the results where so bad. 60% on one and even lower on the other. I pulled the head only to find fuel in the cylinders. I put it back together, fixed the carb and the cylinders tested high 90's after warming it up. I'd say fix your problem and run it then test over again.


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: d7cook] #1264018
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yep.. load the rings against the walls with some full throttle short shifting...did wonders for another engine I had with sealing issues

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: d7cook] #1264019
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a lot of good advice on here, plus a warmed up engine always test better than a cold one good luck

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: AAR-B4] #1264020
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Make sure the crankcase can breathe.
Leaking timing cover makes me wonder. Is it leaking or being pushed out with crankcase pressure?




Its a small leak but it has 2 breathers so its venting

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264021
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Well I put it back together, leaned it out and have
been loading it against the brakes.... it seems
like its coming around but I dont want to kill the
brakes so tomorrow I'll run it on the road a few
times...this last time I was loading it I could stay
in the shop a lot longer with the fumes and it seems
like a lot less blue color... so it MIGHT be working

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264022
07/08/12 06:29 PM
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I`ll tell ya this Mike, it has worked more than once for others and myself and if it`s not glazed up as they say it might come around for ya. Do u have a wideband on your car?


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: Thumperdart] #1264023
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I`ll tell ya this Mike, it has worked more than once for others and myself and if it`s not glazed up as they say it might come around for ya. Do u have a wideband on your car?




I have one but its not in there yet

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264024
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Was just curious and thinking that if you had one it would at least get you close in terms of leaning it out but NOT hurting it........


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264025
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I`ll tell ya this Mike, it has worked more than once for others and myself and if it`s not glazed up as they say it might come around for ya. Do u have a wideband on your car?




I have one but its not in there yet





Here's another case where the O2 sensor would have helped, : but Stevie Wonder could see in the video it was pig fat and idled extremely rough from it...as others have said, I'd clean the idle up and hammer the piss out of it...


If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: Big Squeeze] #1264026
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I`ll tell ya this Mike, it has worked more than once for others and myself and if it`s not glazed up as they say it might come around for ya. Do u have a wideband on your car?




I have one but its not in there yet





Here's another case where the O2 sensor would have helped, : but Stevie Wonder could see in the video it was pig fat and idled extremely rough from it...as others have said, I'd clean the idle up and hammer the piss out of it...




Been doing that.. this engine started out with a
few issues... oil leaks that caused MOST of the oil
at the tail pipe, carb was fat but in the beginning
I didnt think it was that bad.. I should have been
loading it harder.... I'll find out tomorrow how
it turns out... I wasnt paying that much attention
to the engine with so many other things to work on
and I should have been... with my race engines I
just set the timing and carb then hit the track and
that seats the rings... but this is a street engine

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264027
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you'll get it all sorted out...

heres a pic for inspiration..

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I see today that the squirters are way too big...
37 pri and 40 sec... I'm gonna run into town to get
some fresh oil... the stuff in there has too much
fuel in it... but I'm gonna pull the pan first and
fix the issues there

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264029
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The 408 in the demon acted like it didnt want to seat the rings, and the more I drove it and the more I beat on it the better it is. Its great now, and I havent looked back, well to see the tatoos on the highways, but thats it LOL.

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264030
07/09/12 12:34 PM
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I see today that the squirters are way too big...
37 pri and 40 sec... I'm gonna run into town to get
some fresh oil... the stuff in there has too much
fuel in it... but I'm gonna pull the pan first and
fix the issues there



Good luck Mike.............I`ve never personally gone faster w/bigger squirters although each car is different I run 28`s ft. and rear and my carb came w/35`s........I`d also hook up the wide band cos when I took my dart on it`s maiden run I was a bit lean so I jetted accordingly and never looked back.


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264031
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So what did you find out Mike?


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: Thumperdart] #1264032
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So what did you find out Mike?




Really nothing yet... I pulled the pan and fixed a
couple of leaks and checked a couple of bearings...
they looked fine so I reinstalled the pan... I'll
fire it up tomorrow... the exhaust systems has alot
of oil in it so I'm gonna try running it about 1/2
hour at 180* temp at about 2500 Rs to see if it burns
out... I also put some smaller squirter and jets to
stock settings...
I loaned my O2 meter out so I should get it back in
a few days ... but I think it should be fine now
on the carb

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264033
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Hope it works out 4 ya...........


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: Thumperdart] #1264034
07/11/12 02:56 PM
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Well after running it at 2500 rpm for a 1/2 hour today
I decided to go ahead and pull the engine.... I'm
just not happy with it.... I'll prep it today and pull
it tomorrow....... I just dont feel like working today...
it only takes about 1 hour to have it out and on the
ground then separate the trans..... I'm sorta bummed
but it is what it is... I just feel like a A$$ for
not catching it in the first place

Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1264035
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Sorry to hear this Mike..............at least you can do the work yourself, find and fix the problems and enjoy the ride when it`s all done. Good luck with it.


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Re: NOT HAPPY [Re: Thumperdart] #1264036
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Thanks Dom.... its no big deal but when I get done I
want it to be right... I dont want to have to pull the
engine a month or two down the road... so I'll take
care of it now

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