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Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? #126081
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Scott.....this look like an original intake to you? Not a Repro?

cars been sitting for over 10 years.

Note the 4-bolt valvecovers too.

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Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: CHRYCOFAN] #126082
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This is what it's in....

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Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: CHRYCOFAN] #126083
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Hard to say, but based on what I can see it's an original, and likely a Stage II or III unit. The valve covers would be Stage II or earlier. One thing's for sure, those Holley's aren't original! What's the VIN of the car?

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Look for the casting date on the manifold. I don't believe there is any chance of it being a repro...

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Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: 64dodge572] #126085
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That looks to be a 63 Sport Fury like my car. Which means it would be the basic 426 Max Wedge or maybe a Stage II. They only made 72 Stage II Max Wedge Plymouth's in 63 and no Stage III's in 63 as all Stage III's were 64's. Ron

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Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: 383man] #126086
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Quote:

That looks to be a 63 Sport Fury like my car. Which means it would be the basic 426 Max Wedge or maybe a Stage II. They only made 72 Stage II Max Wedge Plymouth's in 63 and no Stage III's in 63 as all Stage III's were 64's.




Regardless of what year the car is, it's obviously had more than a few modifications so most visual clues of it's originallity concrning the engine details pretty much goes out the window. The casting date on the intake, and the VIN on the car will likely tell more of the story.

Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #126087
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I'm gonna go look at it next week, don't honestly think it's areal Maxie car but sure does look like a good chance of being real Max heads & Intake. I knew the carbs were wrong anyway. I'll get the list #'s just to see what Holleys they are.

It is a 63 Sport Fury, he has all the trim to put back on, most of the interior is there except the back seat bottom so I'm told. Supposed to have a Dana under it with 5.13's & had a 4-speed in it at one time...now a T-flite with an aftermarket shifter. The Headers are the type that have 1 tube going out thru the fenderwell. I'm thinking Repro Max manifolds in place of those would be neat.

The guy's finally wanting the car back running so I guess we'll get it over here sometime. A good wash is the first thing to do. Change the braking (get rid of the drums & single M/C ) check over the engine etc. see where we're at from there.

forgot, the guy said it's a 440 short block too. Who know what kinda pistons & cam it has. Somebody's old racecar!

Butch

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Re: Scott Smith - Max-wedge Intake? [Re: CHRYCOFAN] #126088
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Please try to get some close up details on the plug wires as well, look for any markings or date codes.

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They are orange aren't they.....will do.

The guy that is pointing him to us is somebody we've done work on his car too.....Nice 65 Belvedere with a built RB, Dana , cage & painted in the old Ramchargers scheme. Gotta get a pic of his car too.

The guy with the 63 was looking for somebody he could trust......US? LOl!

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Were maxies avail with power brakes ?

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Were maxies avail with power brakes ?




No,and no power steering either.

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Those exhaust mainfolds would be a we bit difficult to install with a booster in the way


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Didn't think they were either....more reason why I think it's just somebody's old racer with some good parts to start with.

We'll see when I get over to see it in person. Still, always neat to find one that's been sitting so long & the owner finally wants to do something with it.

Oh, the guy has another sitting 2 bays over... 54 Vette missing the original engine. Covered in so much stuff he couldn't even get a good look at it.

Butch

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This doesn't look an original Max Wedge Car, howerver the intake and possibly the heads llok correct.

Underhood braces on original cars had center section braces cut out for clearance on the original Air Cleaners. Photo of car with hood open shows full underhood bracing. Additionally the later photo of a Real Maxie has the correct Non-Power Brake Master Cyl. & Brake line routing to clear the Exhaust Manifols.

I own an Original 63 Maxie Sport Fury and can see what appears to be just an engine transplant to make a Racer.

You need to check the Block casting numbers and the front pad stampings near the distributor to see if the block is a real Max Wedge engine.

Having said that, however it still is and can be a great car even if not an Original Maxie.

I certainly wouldn't turn it down if the price was right.

Good Luck

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Brake line passenger side.Also note location of transmission fill tube.Other things to look for.

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Quote:

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That looks to be a 63 Sport Fury like my car. Which means it would be the basic 426 Max Wedge or maybe a Stage II. They only made 72 Stage II Max Wedge Plymouth's in 63 and no Stage III's in 63 as all Stage III's were 64's.




Regardless of what year the car is, it's obviously had more than a few modifications so most visual clues of it's originallity concrning the engine details pretty much goes out the window. The casting date on the intake, and the VIN on the car will likely tell more of the story.




I appoligize if I sounded like a smart a$$ as I did not mean too. Sorry as I only ment to state some facts I have learned in the books I bought from Darrell Davis. I have the 63 Ply and Dodge book and the 64 Ply book. If you get the vin you can PM it to me and I will check it in my book as it has all the vin's of all the 63 Maxie cars in it. So I can check to see for sure if its a Maxie car. As for power brakes I dont believe they were avalible on any Max Wedge cars. Ron

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I'm gonna go look at it next week, don't honestly think it's areal Maxie car




The location of the voltage regulator, the upper radiator nipple and the power booster make it a sure bet it's not an original Maxie.


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Ron, no big deal, I never viewed your post like that. The question to me concerned the intake, which is what I answered. I wasn't asked to guess if the car was a real MW or not, after a quick look it was pretty apparent that it was probably not (all of the incorrect under hood details, etc.) my request for a VIN would have taken away any remaining doubt that's all.


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Like I said, didn't think it was a real Maxie.

I talked at length with the owner at the Car show yesterday. Cars been in the family since 65. He & a cousin had it together for a few years & then the cousin bought him out & didn't do much with the car. He bought it back a few years later & had it painted & the carb re-built & that's about as far as he got with it.

His memory is that the heads are Stage III & it is an original intake. They've had the stuff too long not be original items. The carbs are 660 Holley's. He does have an 18 spline 4-speed for the car & it still has the Clutch/Brake pedal assy from when it had the 4-speed earlier. He says his cousin still has all the info on What the motor build is, Cam, Compression & such & will try to get that so we can see what was done. Barring that we pull it apart &see. I'll bet it's high compression & a large mechanical cam from what he remembers. Car supposedly ran upper 10's with this motor back in the day.

I won't get to look at it for a couple of weeks, he's real busy right now & I told him to let us know when he's ready.

This guy is probably in his 60's & is a "collector" type. Has other old cars & a bunch of Chevy truck as well as Farm equipment.

Butch

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