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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260777 07/02/12 11:32 PM 07/02/12 11:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Since I drive my 63 alot I wanted to keep it simple and cheap so I just went with SS springs and the longer C-body shocks. It has pulled a 1.50 best 60 so far going 10.70's. But my tires are about done so I might be able to tap high 1.40's with new tires. I believe I may 60 a bit better on caltracs but I dont think it would be enough to worry about. Ron

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 383man] #1260778 07/02/12 11:36 PM 07/02/12 11:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa Steve1118 master
Steve1118 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa	For the money, the SS springs are hard to beat.... "Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Steve1118] #1260779 07/02/12 11:46 PM 07/02/12 11:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	My springs are the Mancini SS types that made with a better spring steel. The SS's now are off shore stuff and that's what they are, stuff.. The old Direct Connection SS springs are the ones to fetch if you can find 'em. My friend has the old DC SS springs on his small Block A-Body and he can 60'ft in the low 150-140's in a real street car with ET street radials. Last edited by fullmetaljacket; 07/03/12 08:33 AM.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1260780 07/03/12 05:33 AM 07/03/12 05:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,924 A shed in England Tig master
Tig master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,924 A shed in England	Quote: If I'm not mistaken, a certain cat by the name of 572 has already gone high eights/low nines with SS springs while scraping the rear bumper. I'm not sure if a certain Cat is using Caltracs now, perhaps he'll let us know. '74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Tig] #1260781 07/03/12 05:50 AM 07/03/12 05:50 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central S Scamp408 master
Scamp408 master S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,709 NJ central	I went from 002/003 ss spring and comp 3 ways to caltrac /split monos and strange adj shocks.I also loosen ther frt and and have 5-1/2in of travel and gained nothing same 60ft and et. The car does hook harder from video/pics but at least I have more adjustability.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1260782 07/03/12 09:30 AM 07/03/12 09:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,864 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,864 S.E. Michigan	Quote: The SS's now are off shore stuff Made in Mexico at Chrysler's one and only leaf spring plant, the same one that makes all the ram truck leaf springs, that every Dodge truck on the road has come with since the 1990s. Prior to that, they were made at Chrysler's only leaf spring plant in Canada. They were never made in USA including in the Direct Connection days, but at least they continue to be North American sourced. offshore, no. Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: ZIPPY] #1260783 07/03/12 10:17 AM 07/03/12 10:17 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT.	Never had Cal-Tracs, but a set of SS prings on a 69' Barracuda w/ cheapo MOPAR shocks (rear) and Koni adjustables (front) went a best 1.28 (no snubber)......9in converter, about 4800 flash and footbrake at 3280# on an ATCO rent day. Usual 60s were 1.30.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: jim sciortino] #1260784 07/03/12 11:30 AM 07/03/12 11:30 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA Boosted master
Boosted master Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA	Had CalTracs on the 69 Dart and it went 5.70's at 124 with a 1.26 60 foot on a 10.5 tire.. I just cannot handle the look of a 4wd sitting car with SS springs... 2011 RAM3500 1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Boosted] #1260785 07/03/12 11:44 AM 07/03/12 11:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	my I went from SS spring to the cal-trac and I really was not looking for a world of difference from the get go. Its a 70 duster with a Dana 4.30 gears 383 stroker with -1 heads and dommy. with the SS springs it was all over the board, it would run 9.84, 9.89, 9.86, 9.91, now the 60ft where in the 1.29 to 1.32 range, could never get it right and we tried everything so in and effort to chase down what was happening I put the cal-tracs on it. With no other changes right off the trailer it went off and ran a 9.81,9.80, 9.81, and all the 60ft times where 1.30, 1.302,1.301 so I would say that they worked for me. I mean they didn't make the car 2 full seconds faster, Im still looking for the magic add on though...

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1260786 07/03/12 12:25 PM 07/03/12 12:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	Though the ss springs work good they have 2 draw backs. They cannot be adjusted to make up for either track conditions or power of your combo so consequently consistency suffers. Caltracs offer more adjustability to tune in your car and combo. Plus you save a few lbs. Shock adjustment is very important. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1260787 07/03/12 02:04 PM 07/03/12 02:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: my I went from SS spring to the cal-trac and I really was not looking for a world of difference from the get go. Its a 70 duster with a Dana 4.30 gears 383 stroker with -1 heads and dommy. with the SS springs it was all over the board, it would run 9.84, 9.89, 9.86, 9.91, now the 60ft where in the 1.29 to 1.32 range, could never get it right and we tried everything so in and effort to chase down what was happening I put the cal-tracs on it. With no other changes right off the trailer it went off and ran a 9.81,9.80, 9.81, and all the 60ft times where 1.30, 1.302,1.301 so I would say that they worked for me. I mean they didn't make the car 2 full seconds faster, Im still looking for the magic add on though... Just curious.........how much does your car weigh and do you have a power adder cos your 60`s are awesome? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Thumperdart] #1260788 07/03/12 02:40 PM 07/03/12 02:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Quote: Quote: my I went from SS spring to the cal-trac and I really was not looking for a world of difference from the get go. Its a 70 duster with a Dana 4.30 gears 383 stroker with -1 heads and dommy. with the SS springs it was all over the board, it would run 9.84, 9.89, 9.86, 9.91, now the 60ft where in the 1.29 to 1.32 range, could never get it right and we tried everything so in and effort to chase down what was happening I put the cal-tracs on it. With no other changes right off the trailer it went off and ran a 9.81,9.80, 9.81, and all the 60ft times where 1.30, 1.302,1.301 so I would say that they worked for me. I mean they didn't make the car 2 full seconds faster, Im still looking for the magic add on though... Just curious.........how much does your car weigh and do you have a power adder cos your 60`s are awesome? Thanks Thumper No power adder just good old fashion DAD horsepower lol....

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1260789 07/03/12 02:41 PM 07/03/12 02:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Oh and with me in it the car rolls over the scales at 3420...

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1260790 07/03/12 02:44 PM 07/03/12 02:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Oh and with me in it the car rolls over the scales at 3420... DAMN............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: ZIPPY] #1260791 07/03/12 02:50 PM 07/03/12 02:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	I guess what I meant was that the metal being used these days is not what they used back when. The new springs lose there arch faster now and sag making for an inconsistent launch/stance type of car. They may be made in Mexico, but I may bet that the material is from Asia or beyond. My friends A-body using vintage new DC SS's is deadly consistent and hits hard, and its a 100% street cruiser with radio, full interior on a 10" tire and all. He's taken many a door prize home at various track events. Too many trophies to stack up at the moment. Some here may know him as Curtis Taylor from Brooklyn, but I know him as Glasses.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1260792 07/03/12 03:18 PM 07/03/12 03:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	I dont know but the SS springs that I used were from when my dad built the car in the early 70s. He got them from DC. so I dont think it was a metal problem, also they were the spare set so its not that they were bet on either. I still say the cal-tracs are hard to beat. the SS springs work no doubt thats not the problem its getting them to repeat. and do it again and again.....

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1260793 07/03/12 03:27 PM 07/03/12 03:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas S shoebox OP super stock
shoebox OP super stock S Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas	I don't want to have arch issues... Humm. Going to have to wait n see At least you know what your getting from Calvert! 74 dart sport 440 www.Csucarbs.com

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260794 07/03/12 03:44 PM 07/03/12 03:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	True that, at least with the Cal's you know what you are getting and go at it from there, Their products are well sought out and all. With the SS's, you're kind of limited to NOS stuff or the custom springs. My friends car is deadly consistent every time out. IE:1.60-1.60-1.62. Mine, well lets just say I have timing, carb issues that need to be ironed out. But I tell you one thing, my short times are within a hair of each other. IE: 1.65-1.64- 1.65 and when I get it sought out, It will be good and plenty. 10" tire by the way.

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