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Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs #1260757
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Ethier way will meet my goals. Whats the difference in weight?

SS springs (no snubber) VS cal tracs with the monos

What's the cost difference? "decent" shocks on ethier setup
(in that question I mean do you have to replace SS more often?)
Don't they lose ooomph after a while?


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260758
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I went from stock springs (not super stock) to Caltrac mono's. The Caltrac mono's are ~25#'s a piece if I recall correctly, and my stock springs were ~ 35#'s each...so I cut 20#'s off.

The super stock springs are heavier than stock springs, so the weight savings is substantial.


67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: FlyFish] #1260759
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If you're considering both.... its a no brainer, go Calvert. They're lighter & they're adjustable.


LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260760
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Calvert for us slow guys and never look back...........


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Thumperdart] #1260761
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Calvert for us slow guys and never look back...........






68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780#
69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #1260762
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I see the thump and cars like that-looking good!!! But the old school
Guys doing 1.30s on SS sure do get it done!!


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260763
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Don't sleep on SS's. I'm still tuning mine but I'm sure I will get some good 60' footers on SS's soon. Haevy they are for sure, but you should hear how heavy the Landrum springs are.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260764
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I see the thump and cars like that-looking good!!! But the old school
Guys doing 1.30s on SS sure do get it done!!




Yep, i aint the smartest guy by far, but i had zero problems(after some minor tinkering) getting my 3350 pound s/s spring car with cheap 3 way shocks to hook anywhere and go mid 1.3xxx all the time, in the high 9's with very small 28 by 10 tires.

I say that because over the years i read thread after thread of caltrack posts where guys have a problem hooking, or should i try this or that, just to run high 9 's or slower. I find it kinda funny.


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: B3422W5] #1260765
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On an A body, read short front segment, the Cal Tracs are not as effective as when the are used on a longer front segment car. The B & E bodies as well as most Fords respond well to them over a regular leaf spring assembly.


1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: sixpackbee] #1260766
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Go Cal Tracs & Split Mono's & don't look back. If you are like the rest of us you will continue to go faster & faster & will eventually over power the S.S. springs. I have never seen any s.s. spring cars knocking on the door of 6 sec 1/4 mile e.t.'s. There are numerous Caltrac cars getting closer every day. In fact someone somewhere may have already done it. If you eventually go fast enough an anti-roll bar will help alot as well.


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1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1260767
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If I'm not mistaken, a certain cat by the name of 572 has already gone high eights/low nines with SS springs while scraping the rear bumper.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1260768
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There is a big price Difference, one reason i went with the SS springs, pick them up new/used for 175.00, and first time out on not a good track went 1.54 sixty


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1970 Plymouth Duster 360/904 10.60s with J heads
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1260769
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How the hell do you go in the 1.30's with SS springs ? I cannot get decent numbers with mine !

Dan

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: Wedgeman] #1260770
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How the hell do you go in the 1.30's with SS springs ? I cannot get decent numbers with mine !

Dan




With a LOT of work!

The front end is more important than the rear end in most cases.

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260771
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i should be in the mid 1.3's next time out on ss 3900#car,driver.


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: RobX4406] #1260772
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The front end is more important than the rear end in most cases.



Amen to that. My 340 Stocker goes mid 1.30's with SS springs.


1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: sixpackbee] #1260773
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for me at this point i think i need to go SS due to cost and ease of initial setup. plus its the mopar thing to do! lol their a right of passage!


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: shoebox] #1260774
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I HAVE POSTED BEFORE WISH WE WOULD NEVER BOUGHT THEM , AND STAYED WITH THE SS SPRINGS!

Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: dennismopar73] #1260775
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I like both. There's no question the tracs are fast but the fast SS guys
Sell me!


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Re: Cal tracs VS. Superstock springs [Re: dennismopar73] #1260776
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my A body caltracs weight is 51# and the calvert mono springs weight 29# for the pairs. my SS springs weight is 80#/pair. did'nt save much weight on my car. best 60 with the SS spring was 1.59 with a pump gas 408 weighting 3300#. have'nt been to the track yet with the new set up but not expecting much improvement with caltracts.

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