Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
[Re: dvw]
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06/21/12 08:30 AM
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If the cable is adjusted correctly then the 3rd/reverse clutch is damaged. I would double check the cable , pull the bolt that attaches the cable when it's in 3rd gear. The bolt should come out easily and not be in a bind when the adjustment is correct.
Doug
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
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06/21/12 10:20 AM
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I would think your cable adjustment is wrong... also while your at it re-adjust the bands when your under there 
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
[Re: dartman366]
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06/21/12 04:36 PM
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you can tighten the band 1/2 turn and that will help it,, but you burned the front clutch pack up,, its applying late,, the band releases and and the clutch applies,, though late,, so it flares
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
[Re: dvw]
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doug,, the band is applied in 2nd gear,, it comes off the drum going into 3rd and the clutch applies,, if the cluth is slow to apply cause its worn out or loose it will flare the 2-3 gear change,, if the band is too tight it will pull down on the 2-3 gear change,, the timing of the band releasing and the foward clutch applying is something you just learn what works for your set up,, as to how many turns out your band is,, im at 2 1/4 turns out,,,, but i recently burned up the forward clutch and it flared in the 2-3,, i tightened the band 1/2 turn and it fixed it,, took trans apart and the clutches were smoked,, causing a delay in it applying,, which is why,,, it flared..
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
[Re: moderncylinder]
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06/22/12 02:09 AM
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doug,, the band is applied in 2nd gear,, it comes off the drum going into 3rd and the clutch applies,, if the cluth is slow to apply cause its worn out or loose it will flare the 2-3 gear change,, if the band is too tight it will pull down on the 2-3 gear change,, the timing of the band releasing and the foward clutch applying is something you just learn what works for your set up,, as to how many turns out your band is,, im at 2 1/4 turns out,,,, but i recently burned up the forward clutch and it flared in the 2-3,, i tightened the band 1/2 turn and it fixed it,, took trans apart and the clutches were smoked,, causing a delay in it applying,, which is why,,, it flared..
been there done that, yes you probably hurt the high gear clutch eather burn't it or wore it enough to change the timing of the shift event. 
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
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06/22/12 02:23 AM
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doug,, the band is applied in 2nd gear,, it comes off the drum going into 3rd and the clutch applies,, if the cluth is slow to apply cause its worn out or loose it will flare the 2-3 gear change,, if the band is too tight it will pull down on the 2-3 gear change,, the timing of the band releasing and the foward clutch applying is something you just learn what works for your set up,, as to how many turns out your band is,, im at 2 1/4 turns out,,,, but i recently burned up the forward clutch and it flared in the 2-3,, i tightened the band 1/2 turn and it fixed it,, took trans apart and the clutches were smoked,, causing a delay in it applying,, which is why,,, it flared..
been there done that, yes you probably hurt the high gear clutch eather burn't it or wore it enough to change the timing of the shift event.
if a clutch was burnt or worn could you tell if you dropped the pan?
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Re: reverse manual valve body engine flare up
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06/22/12 02:37 AM
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doug,, the band is applied in 2nd gear,, it comes off the drum going into 3rd and the clutch applies,, if the cluth is slow to apply cause its worn out or loose it will flare the 2-3 gear change,, if the band is too tight it will pull down on the 2-3 gear change,, the timing of the band releasing and the foward clutch applying is something you just learn what works for your set up,, as to how many turns out your band is,, im at 2 1/4 turns out,,,, but i recently burned up the forward clutch and it flared in the 2-3,, i tightened the band 1/2 turn and it fixed it,, took trans apart and the clutches were smoked,, causing a delay in it applying,, which is why,,, it flared..
been there done that, yes you probably hurt the high gear clutch eather burn't it or wore it enough to change the timing of the shift event.
if a clutch was burnt or worn could you tell if you dropped the pan?
usually if it is burn't the fluid will have a burn't smell and will not have that pretty red color to it may have some dark looking residue in the pan, if it's burn't bad enough you will know pretty quickly by smell alone, dissasembly will verify wear as the clutch clearance will have opened up.
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