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1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 #1239022
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Just picked this RV up and its got a 440 dated April 1978 in it and it seems to be original to the RV. Was this possible? I thought 78 was the end of the road for big blocks?

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: mopowergtx] #1239023
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Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: mopowergtx] #1239024
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I'm not sure about how and when the chassis' are assembled into motorhomes. My in-laws gave me their 1974 that had a leaking roof so I junked it out. They had bought it new and it only had 45,000 miles on it and the drivetrain had nothing done but regular maintenance. When I pulled the 318 engine, it had a casting date of 1970.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: Dodge-N-Shelby] #1239025
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I'm not sure about how and when the chassis' are assembled into motorhomes. My in-laws gave me their 1974 that had a leaking roof so I junked it out. They had bought it new and it only had 45,000 miles on it and the drivetrain had nothing done but regular maintenance. When I pulled the 318 engine, it had a casting date of 1970.




Interesting info.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: mopowergtx] #1239026
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I worked on and rebuilt the 360 in my parents 73 dodge motorhome back in the day. I would have killed for a 440 motor.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: mopowergtx] #1239027
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April 1978 is a 78

Yes, 78 was the end of the big block


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Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: moparts] #1239028
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All the motorhome companies that used Dodge Chassis would buy them in bulk and then just use them when needed. The actual RV built date can be WAY off from the drive train and frame.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: Devil] #1239029
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& the chassis VIN # F44CD9V725877

F4 = forward control 400 series
4 = (body code index) = STD cab w/sweptline box or special compact bus
C = (GVW index) = 10001 to 14000 lbs.
D = 440
9 = 1979
V = Warren assembly plant
725877 = VIN sequence

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: 6bblgt] #1239030
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& the chassis VIN # F44CD9V725877

F4 = forward control 400 series
4 = (body code index) = STD cab w/sweptline box or special short bus
C = (GVW index) = 10001 to 14000 lbs.
D = 440
9 = 1979
V = Warren assembly plant
725877 = VIN sequence





That explains a lot.





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Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: moparts] #1239031
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April 1978 is a 78

Yes, 78 was the end of the big block


Me thinks not, maybe 1980 when they went B.K. the first time, maybe not, maybe 1979


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Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: moparts] #1239032
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My 79 Dodge Van factory service manual shows everything for a 440, as well as a 'metric' inline 6 cyl. diesel (weird!). Obviously printed before the models actually came out.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: rustbuckett68] #1239033
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Everything I've read indicates the chassis were built and purchased in bulk and sat around for years as the RV companies used up their existing stock.

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My 79 Dodge Van factory service manual shows everything for a 440, as well as a 'metric' inline 6 cyl. diesel (weird!). Obviously printed before the models actually came out.




In 79 there was a 6-banger diesel available in dodge half ton trucks. A mitsubishi diesel I think. Was a $$$ option over a 318 and had less power too. Very few of them out there.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1239034
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The Dodge motor home plant was called "Sherwood Assembly" (on the corner of Nine Mile Rd. and Sherwood) but was officially known as Warren Truck Assembly Plant 2, and they did build trucks there before the motor homes. Seems to me, that after the big blocks ended in the cars they were still available for two years. Trenton Engine Plant made the 400 and 440 back then. This was before Toluca Engine(Mexico) built any engines for Dodge. Only the chassis were built and were shipped with a temporary steering wheel and fiberglass bucket seat to motor home manufacturers such as Champion. I believe it was in 1980, but I recall that the motor home plant was retooled for an International engine, something around 500+ cu. in.; I saw the tooling in the plant, but shortly thereafter the motor homes were discontinued altogether and the contents of "Sherwood" were purchased by and shipped to, Bishop Trucking in Dallas, Texas. I do not have a picture of motor home chassis but I know I have pictures somewhere of a Dodge cab over built at "Sherwood" in the middle 1970's. It was a tilt cab with a Cummins Super 250 diesel. In those days Dodge used Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, Cummins for their Heavy Truck operations. Speaking of diesels, it is true that there was a Mitsubishi 6 cyl. diesel used in "light duty" Dodge Trucks, probably D100 only, for (as I remember), one year only. This was a poorly conceived and clumsy foray into diesel trucks for Dodge.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: mopowergtx] #1239035
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RV coach and chassis manufacturing dates are often different. I saw a post on an RV forum by someone who claimed to have a 1981 Dodge RV with a factory 440. One of the forum members over there posted that some of the RV manufacturers like the Dodge chassis, so when they heard Dodge was going to discontinue the 440's they stocked up.

If the RV in question is a class C with the Van front sheet metal, it would be easy to tell if it's a 78 and older or a 79 and newer because the Dodge line of van's got new front sheet metal in 1979.

Re: 1981 Dodge Class C RV with a 440 [Re: QuickDodge] #1239036
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As mentioned above the years can vary and not match the chassis. '78 was the last year for the 440 in cars and pickups but it was still used in the motorhome chassis until Chrysler got out of that business. You'll see the old style front end Class-Cs registered as later years. My '79 chassis Brougham is registered as a '78 while my '73 chassis Hall GTC is registered as a '74.

The biggest problem is when you go to get parts. When I rebuilt my '79 I spent a lot of time buying and returning parts, especially for the brakes. My coach originally had a 440 but someone changed it over to a 360 which I kept.







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