Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 #1237088
05/21/12 03:07 PM
05/21/12 03:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
E
EWJ Offline OP
master
EWJ  Offline OP
master
E

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
I pulled the valve covers off the 440 in my GTX to see how things looked (car has been sitting for years..).

Looking at the rocker arms- and how the meet the valve stems- does not look right on some of the cylinders. They are not mixed up (left vs. right). The small hardened spacers are between them. How are they to remain centered on the valve stem tip?

In pic 1 below, of cylinder 1, we can see that the exhaust valve rocker is far to the right of the valve stem center:

In Pic 2 below, of cylinder 2, they are centered and have much less endplay. Also, the rockers in pic 2 look to be of a different stamping:


Are the rockers in pic 2 OEM Mopar pieces and the ones in pic 1 generic replacements? Any suggestions on all of this is appreciated.


Ed
EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc.
1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: EWJ] #1237089
05/21/12 03:26 PM
05/21/12 03:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
M
MoparforLife Offline
Too Many Posts
MoparforLife  Offline
Too Many Posts
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
Looks to me as if someone didn't know that there is a right and left offset to the rockers. Put the right offset in your right hand and the left in your left and that is how they are installed as you stand beside looking at the engine.

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: MoparforLife] #1237090
05/21/12 03:33 PM
05/21/12 03:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 531
USA
5
540DUSTER Offline
mopar
540DUSTER  Offline
mopar
5

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 531
USA
In the first pic it looks like somebody was hammering on the rocker on the right.Get new ones.

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: EWJ] #1237091
05/21/12 05:44 PM
05/21/12 05:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,543
chicagoland,usa
B
buildanother Offline
I Live Here
buildanother  Offline
I Live Here
B

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,543
chicagoland,usa
Looks like 2 different batches of rocker arms to me.

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: EWJ] #1237092
05/21/12 07:35 PM
05/21/12 07:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 736
New York
R/T1968R/T Offline
super stock
R/T1968R/T  Offline
super stock

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 736
New York
Is it my imagination or is that a small block rocker arm in the first picture??

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1237093
05/21/12 08:01 PM
05/21/12 08:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,880
Out in Left Field, NY
B
bobs66440 Offline
top fuel
bobs66440  Offline
top fuel
B

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,880
Out in Left Field, NY
Quote:

Is it my imagination or is that a small block rocker arm in the first picture??


They look different..

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1237094
05/21/12 08:46 PM
05/21/12 08:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
E
EWJ Offline OP
master
EWJ  Offline OP
master
E

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
Quote:

Is it my imagination or is that a small block rocker arm in the first picture??




!!

Can that be it? I've never worked on a SB valvetrain.


Ed
EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc.
1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: EWJ] #1237095
05/21/12 11:23 PM
05/21/12 11:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,782
USA
J
JoesMopar Offline
master
JoesMopar  Offline
master
J

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,782
USA
You have the wrong rocker arm on it. Like someone mentioned, it looks like it's for a small block, but it is the correct "left"....just for the wrong engine.

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: JoesMopar] #1237096
05/21/12 11:25 PM
05/21/12 11:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Supercuda Offline
About to go away
Supercuda  Offline
About to go away

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
looks like the spacers are a bit skinny too, but it's been almost 20 years since I had a BB under my hood.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: Supercuda] #1237097
05/22/12 10:54 AM
05/22/12 10:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,071
U.S.S.A.
JohnRR Offline
I Win
JohnRR  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,071
U.S.S.A.
The spacer is fine , that is the normal big block stamped spacer . Don't have a picture to compare to but I think as mentioned that is a small block rocker .

Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: EWJ] #1237098
05/22/12 02:56 PM
05/22/12 02:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
E
EWJ Offline OP
master
EWJ  Offline OP
master
E

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
Thanks everyone for your input!


Ed
EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc.
1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: MoparforLife] #1237099
05/22/12 03:00 PM
05/22/12 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,080
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,080
Niles , Ohio
Look at the top right of the rocker.Its all hogged out.Thats why its sitting so far forward and off to the side.New rockers are in order.Heavy springs and or a big cam will do that fast.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: Stock Rocker Arm questions- 440 [Re: therocks] #1237100
05/23/12 09:25 AM
05/23/12 09:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
E
EWJ Offline OP
master
EWJ  Offline OP
master
E

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,464
Back in NJ....
Thanks Rocky! Looks to be the case.


Ed
EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc.
1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1