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rack and pinion and backing up #1224742
04/30/12 11:16 AM
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my tires toe in when i'm backing up. I have read something about this on here a long time ago. what causes this to happen?


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Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: sixpackgut] #1224743
04/30/12 11:21 AM
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Couple of questions.. whats the front end alignment
and is there a spacer from the tie rod to the steering
arm

Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1224744
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Couple of questions.. whats the front end alignment
and is there a spacer from the tie rod to the steering
arm





i have not had a machine alighnment. it has about 7* of caster. 0 camber. and 1/4inch toe.

and there was a spacer on the arms already and i cut them off because it was changing toe to much. my rack is maybe to high because i have it in the k frame

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Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: sixpackgut] #1224745
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Are you still running stock upper and lower arms
and are they rubber mounted... with a 1/4" of toe in
are you covering up a possible toe out condition

Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1224746
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Are you still running stock upper and lower arms
and are they rubber mounted... with a 1/4" of toe in
are you covering up a possible toe out condition





i have junky uppers that i got off ebay. dont like them. i cut some of the bushing out and spaced it backwards to get as much caster as i could. the manual for pintos calls for 1/8 to 3/8th toe in so thats where i got it at. it feels good going down the road


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Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: sixpackgut] #1224747
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Quote:

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Are you still running stock upper and lower arms
and are they rubber mounted... with a 1/4" of toe in
are you covering up a possible toe out condition





i have junky uppers that i got off ebay. dont like them. i cut some of the bushing out and spaced it backwards to get as much caster as i could. the manual for pintos calls for 1/8 to 3/8th toe in so thats where i got it at. it feels good going down the road




You have a point or multiple points moving... on my
rack set ups all the points are heim joints and dont
move... also I dont put any spacers on the tie rod
at the steering arm... they flex... plus a lot of
caster tends to do it when backing up... I have 10*
caster on the race car with no issues... I have 6*
on the Rampage but its not on the road yet... both
of these are strut cars

Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1224748
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Had the same issue when i first installed, never had alignment performed.(full cap system)..tube up and lowers ,coil over,rack n pinion....after 4 wheel alignment ,never had a problem again...i was told my caster was really out

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Re: rack and pinion and backing up [Re: pattyboy 572] #1224749
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Had the same issue when i first installed, never had alignment performed.(full cap system)..tube up and lowers ,coil over,rack n pinion....after 4 wheel alignment ,never had a problem again...i was told my caster was really out




OK, I will work on it. Thanks


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