Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
knocking 383 #1224597
04/30/12 12:39 AM
04/30/12 12:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
L
lake71383 Offline OP
member
lake71383  Offline OP
member
L

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
Alright I have a quick question. So I took my wagon out today and heard a knock so I suck my head under the hood. It sounded like it was coming from #1 so I pulled the plug wire and the noise got a lot louder. So layed under the car and put my ear on the oil pan and the noise was gone. I'm thinking it is valve train but would like a second opinion. Also the compression on #1 is down 40psi I would like to know if the two could be related. It also has a 383 if that matters. Thank you for all the help.

Re: knocking 383 [Re: lake71383] #1224598
04/30/12 05:29 AM
04/30/12 05:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,940
Holly/MI
D
Dean_Kuzluzski Offline
master
Dean_Kuzluzski  Offline
master
D

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,940
Holly/MI
Pull the valvecover and check for a broken rocker arm. The pushrod tends to get pushed through the rocker tip and then it will make just such a noise as you mentioned.

Most wrist-pin or piston slap noises lessen when you pull the plugwire away.

The factory Mopar rockers are notorious for breaking.

Good luck.


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: knocking 383 [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1224599
04/30/12 04:07 PM
04/30/12 04:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
L
lake71383 Offline OP
member
lake71383  Offline OP
member
L

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
I pulled the valve cover off and pulled the rockers they have some miles on them but they not broken just have normal wear.

Re: knocking 383 [Re: lake71383] #1224600
04/30/12 06:05 PM
04/30/12 06:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
340SHORTY Offline
Truck Nut
340SHORTY  Offline
Truck Nut

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
start it up again, pull 1 wire at a time till you find the 1 that is knocking. Valve train is usually a clattering sign. Rod and wrist pin problems are a knocking sound. Either way you have a problem that most likely indicates a teardown is in your future.


I am truckless..
Re: knocking 383 [Re: 340SHORTY] #1224601
05/01/12 12:04 AM
05/01/12 12:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
L
lake71383 Offline OP
member
lake71383  Offline OP
member
L

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
Ok so I pluged the wires off one by one and the noise didn't change I also noticed that when the car is wramed up the noise is almost gone and gets alitte louder when you rev it. Thank for the help so far.

Re: knocking 383 [Re: lake71383] #1224602
05/01/12 01:38 AM
05/01/12 01:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,018
Here and now
J
jeebis44 Offline
super stock
jeebis44  Offline
super stock
J

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,018
Here and now
What's your oil pressure?

Re: knocking 383 [Re: jeebis44] #1224603
05/01/12 02:45 AM
05/01/12 02:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
340SHORTY Offline
Truck Nut
340SHORTY  Offline
Truck Nut

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
check your fuel pump push rod.


I am truckless..
Re: knocking 383 [Re: 340SHORTY] #1224604
05/01/12 01:00 PM
05/01/12 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
L
lake71383 Offline OP
member
lake71383  Offline OP
member
L

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 25
lake county, ca
I'm going to check oil presser and the fuel pump push rod but what is the best to check the push rod, just put hand on the fuel pump.

Re: knocking 383 [Re: lake71383] #1224605
05/01/12 01:55 PM
05/01/12 01:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
340SHORTY Offline
Truck Nut
340SHORTY  Offline
Truck Nut

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
NOT the lever on the pump,, the rod that pushes against it..


I am truckless..
Re: knocking 383 [Re: 340SHORTY] #1224606
05/01/12 02:34 PM
05/01/12 02:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,848
Memphis
HemiRick Offline
master
HemiRick  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,848
Memphis
No reason to check fuel pump push rod if it were worn enough to make a noise you wouldn't have any fuel pressure either....


Take care,
Rick
68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
Re: knocking 383 [Re: HemiRick] #1224607
05/01/12 03:03 PM
05/01/12 03:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
M
MoparforLife Offline
Too Many Posts
MoparforLife  Offline
Too Many Posts
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
If it goes away when warmed up could be piston slap. If so run it.

Re: knocking 383 [Re: HemiRick] #1224608
05/01/12 03:05 PM
05/01/12 03:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 21,345
Marysville, O-H-I-O
70Cuda383 Offline
Too Many Posts
70Cuda383  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 21,345
Marysville, O-H-I-O
Pulling one plug at a time didn't isolate it.

so next, remove the intake and exhaust pushrods for one cylinder at a time. see if you can narrow it down to valvetrain somewhere.

if you still can't find it, then it really doesn't mater what the noise is, because you need to pull the motor out and rebuild it.


**Photobucket sucks**
Re: knocking 383 [Re: 70Cuda383] #1224609
05/01/12 03:38 PM
05/01/12 03:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,161
CT
GTX MATT Offline
master
GTX MATT  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,161
CT
I'm just going to mention this because I know two people who have done this, not really sure its your problem, but I know two people who both blew the ring lands out of #1 on a 383. Both left the bores undamaged, but they had be replace a piston.


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1