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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: astjp2]
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04/22/12 11:20 PM
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Being an Olds guy as well, I know that a lot of people use the 200-4R in their Cutlasses behind 455s with great success. An Olds 455 is easily in the 500+ lbs./ft. community. It's all in how it's put together. As mentioned earlier, check with the Turbo Buick guys. They are running sub-11's in 3500 lb. Regals with these trannies. Another plus to a 200-4R over the 700R4 is the gear spread. The drop from first to second is closer, being better for a big-block, with a slightly better O.D. gear.  Paul
1970 Barracuda Convertible
1970 Newport Convertible
1970 Satellite Convertible
1974 'Cuda shell - '71 conversion
1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass w/455
2003 RAM3500 CTD
2007 Caliber R/T AWD
2007 Magnum SRT-8
2016 Chrysler Town & Country
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: RCKTMN]
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04/23/12 12:29 PM
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The Man since I was a little boy is Art Carr. He, however, cashed in on his name and now if you want an Art Carr transmission you go to: http://cpttransmission.com/where you can buy his version of the 200. I've been looking at one to go behind a 455 in my '65 Cutlass S in place of the Super Turbine 300. Looks encouraging. Remember that you have to have resistance at the other end to make a component actually see the torque. Also, unless the 'vert is going to get massive frame reinforcements, it'll be twisted into pretzel shape long before any real driveline damage is done. I say this based on seeing twisted bigblock E-bodies at the drag strip back in the day. So I believe the emphasis on strength of the transmission is more a talking point than a real need. So, the bolt in Keisler kit, which I believe uses a 4L65E, is a winner. The runner up goes to a make-it-fit-yourself 200-4R. R.
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: dogdays]
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04/23/12 12:45 PM
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Dan call Pat at SMR in canada. He can custom build ya a 518 and you will have to have an adapter kit to bolt it to a big block. Pat is good people, very easy to deal with and beats on his auto overdrives in his own race Dakota. He will go over any details you might deal with and help ya right along. Kasey 
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: savoy64]
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04/23/12 01:13 PM
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---but alas allison even used the turbo 400--- (it was easier to just buy it instead of going into developement)-----
When did Allison use a turbo400?
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: dogdays]
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04/24/12 02:40 AM
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Also, unless the 'vert is going to get massive frame reinforcements, it'll be twisted into pretzel shape long before any real driveline damage is done. I say this based on seeing twisted bigblock E-bodies at the drag strip back in the day. So I believe the emphasis on strength of the transmission is more a talking point than a real need.
R.
A bit off topic, but the new book by Andy F had an interesting idea on chassis stiffening, of using two floor pans? I never heard of anyone doing that, but it sounds like a good idea (along with subframe connectors) in a convertible?
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
[Re: cogen80]
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04/24/12 05:04 PM
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The SMR shorty should work fine with that engine combo. No hacking other than shortening the driveshaft a few inches. All the factory lines/linkage bolts right on.
http://smrtrans.tripod.com/smrtransmissionsintro/id32.html
is that the same as a gear vendors? real close to the price and looks a lot like the gv.
Ron
Yes, It is a Gear Vendors unit. Looks like they came up with a shortened version of the adapter housing with matching parts. If it fits as they say, its a nice deal. Never saw one.
MB
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
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04/24/12 05:51 PM
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Twostick - A buddy of mine in Sweden isntalled the SMR setup in his 65 300, I think he did a writeup on the Drydock. He goes by 'unclejoe'. BTW, love the dragstrip vid of your 66 NY that I stumbled across on youtube a while back!
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
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04/24/12 06:15 PM
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: School me on overdrive transmissions for a RB
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04/24/12 06:43 PM
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Twostick
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A buddy of mine in Sweden isntalled the SMR setup in his 65 300, I think he did a writeup on the Drydock. He goes by 'unclejoe'.
BTW, love the dragstrip vid of your 66 NY that I stumbled across on youtube a while back!
 Thanx. I haven't been back since. The best that day was a 13.92. 60 ft was a no traction 2.23. I've gone from a 2.76 SG to a 3.23 SG and I need to put some real tires on it. 12.99 is the goal. It weighs 4800.... Yeah I know
Kevin
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