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fuel line question? Pump to carb! #1215788
04/14/12 09:25 PM
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I have a Carter AFB on my 383 in my 69 charger and right now I have a rubber fuel line with a filter in it going from the pump to the carb. I would like to replace this with a solid line a 2 piece with a screw on inline filter would be nice but I could live with a coulple of short pieces of hose If I need to. my car has 3/8 line all the way to the pump and the rubber line is 3/8 I'm having trouble finding something that i know will fit can anyone here give me some help? what have you used, etc???????

Thanks for the help every one!

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: 1st_charger] #1215789
04/14/12 10:02 PM
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I used 5/16" brake line from the Napa. Got a 48" length. It had inverted flare tubing ends. Cut one end off, used the fitting with an adapter to attach to carb. Bent it with a handheld tubing bender tool to run forward over the intake runners, around the driver's side of distributor (big block), in front of distributor, and down to the pump (it has a vapor separator, but no matter). Fairly easy to bend, warmed it up a little to avoid kinks, looks factory, soory no pics as I'm out of town.

If you put a filter between pump and carb, might have to make some homebrewed or (if you can find them) factory-looking standoffs from the intake bolts or coil bracket bolt holes to add in the hose to tubing connections and keep the tubing in one place on top of the engine. I had to that when I later added the pressure regulator.

Also, wrapped the tubing in hose that I slit length-wise to aid in insulation from engine heat.

If I get some pics of it later this week, I'll post 'em.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: 1st_charger] #1215790
04/15/12 12:46 AM
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Dual Braid Hydraulic Hose.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1215791
04/16/12 09:53 PM
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thanks MoparMarq pics would be great!

How did the factory do it? did they use a rubber line or did they have a hard line?


Thanks again

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: 1st_charger] #1215792
04/22/12 10:32 PM
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Was going to post last week after I had to plumb in a pressure regulator, but one of the fittings was leaking, so I had to dork around with it all day yesterday and today getting different fittings, disassembling/reassembling.

6 pics altogether. here goes...

First one is looking down toward the pump/fuel-vapor separator. The nipple out of the FVS is 5/16. So short section of 5/16 hose onto a homemade 5/16 hardline. The hardline is 5/16 brakeline from Napa. I lengthwise cut 5/16 hose to wrap the hardline from the FVS all the way to the pressure regulator - for insulating purposes. Hence, all the cable ties to hold it in place on the hardline.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215793
04/22/12 10:34 PM
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Next shot is looking over driver's fender toward distributor. Hardline is bent with tubing bender around distributor, to rear, then toward passenger side valve cover, then to rear toward carb inlet.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215794
04/22/12 10:37 PM
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Next shot is looking down at line running aft along passenger side valve cover. It WAS hardline running all the way to the carb inlet with a inverted flare fitting at the inlet. But the car ws running rich no matter what I did, so I figured the pump pressure was too high. Had to revise the setup to install the regulator.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215795
04/22/12 10:42 PM
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Next shot is overview of regulator and line to carb.

Line runs behind carb linkage in front of regulator bracket to a fitting on the underside of the regulator. Fitting is 3/8 pipe on the regulator 90 degree to 3/8 hose nipple. Previous one was different, but leaked, and required removing regulator bracket from intake bolts to remove fitting. NG. Hence, the refit. Inlet to regulator is on the bottom. Two outlets for a Holley carb; one used for the outlet to the Edelbrock, one used for a pressure gauge, which faces forward.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215796
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Next shot is of the regulator. The supplied bracket is a little 90 degree plate for bolting (presumably) to the firewall or fender. Didn't want to do that. Had a spare throttle bracket (You might recognize AndyF's AREngineering throttle bracket) to use to mount regulator bracket to.

Due to the need to install the regulator, had to cut the hardline before the bend to the carb inlet, and make another piece to run aft, inward, then outward to go the regulator inlet. Hence, it's not all one piece of hardline to the regulator from the FVS. There is one hose section "joint" adjacent to the carb where I had to make the cut and slight flare so the hose clamps would have something to grab onto.

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215797
04/22/12 10:52 PM
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Last shot is top down view of previous shot. Used another section of 5/16 brakeline, custom bent to run from outlet of regulator to carb inlet. They only come in 12" and 20" lengths from my local Napa. 12" ws too short to accomodate the bends, and 20" was too long, so had to get the 20" length, cut it, put the fitting back on it, reflare it, and bend it to run to the carb.

Lots of work. And because the hardline has the hose on it for the full length to the regulator, it doesn;t look as factory or elegant as it might, but it's probably a little more functional.

HTH,
Marq

Re: fuel line question? Pump to carb! [Re: MoparMarq] #1215798
04/23/12 08:40 PM
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Quote:

Next shot is of the regulator. The supplied bracket is a little 90 degree plate for bolting (presumably) to the firewall or fender. Didn't want to do that. Had a spare throttle bracket (You might recognize AndyF's AREngineering throttle bracket) to use to mount regulator bracket to.

Due to the need to install the regulator, had to cut the hardline before the bend to the carb inlet, and make another piece to run aft, inward, then outward to go the regulator inlet. Hence, it's not all one piece of hardline to the regulator from the FVS. There is one hose section "joint" adjacent to the carb where I had to make the cut and slight flare so the hose clamps would have something to grab onto.




This picture the 180* bend is pinched pretty flat. This will cause problems.


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