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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: mrrandyj] #1213093
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"The original holes in the outer reinforcement were .280". During Testing, we found that if the holes were increased .030" (to approx. .310") air flow was increased greatly even when filter was partially obstructed with debris or moisture."





I'm sorry, but this is complete bs! They made the holes "approx. . 310" because that is a common size die (5/16" which is actually .312) They took the easy and cheaper way out.





I getting more and more confused with what is the issue here Someone offers a product that to some can't be found for a reasonable price, some want it to be absolutely perfect that you can't tell it from an original and would or should cost as much as an original or the ebay Fram re-runs price ($400+). If you don't like it move on and go buy one off ebay or I'll sell you my NOS air filter with the bid starting at $1,000.




The issue here is that they are charging more than top dollar for a "reproduction" filter that has some very important detail items totally wrong! Anyone who knows these air filters at all will be able to tell from 15 feet away that it isn't correct. How much more effort would it have taken to get it right? A couple years ago the Fram reproduction filter was available for $75.00 They did a great job making it look like the originals did, and they made it in Canada. I would bet anything that these new reproduction filters are made in some 3rd world country, are of questionable quality (filtering wise). They barely resemble what they are supposed to be reproducing, and are twice the price. Thats the issue!

What if the company making reproduction red line tires made the red stripe noticeably too wide? How about if the reproduction tail stripes for a SuperBee had the bee in the wrong place? Would those errors be acceptable too?

If your going to be charging top dollar for a restoration part, it better be correct, or very close to it!




Ah okay.......but are we sure that there was never a reproduction filter before this that HAD the flat holes????


Check out the bottom two filters from a photo taken about one year ago

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: A12] #1213094
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A little closer view......

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: A12] #1213095
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Ah okay.......but are we sure that there was never a reproduction filter before this that HAD the flat holes????




We are sure that the ORIGINAL filters did not have the flat holes, and that's really all that matters!

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: mrrandyj] #1213096
03/21/13 09:22 AM
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A couple years ago the Fram reproduction filter was available for $75.00 They did a great job making it look like the originals did, and they made it in Canada.




The two Fram CA332V filters I had were both stamped 'Made in Canada'. I'm sure they've outsourced production of other filters overseas but at least the CA332V filters weren't.

Mike.

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: A12] #1213097
03/21/13 08:51 PM
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Anyone remember the thread this photo was in ??? Sheds a little more light on the subject...I have to agree...Anyone buying{and paying for} one of these repops would probably want to show the vehicle without someone pointing out the obvious flaws...Why make an inaccurate repop after going through the whole process ???
I thought I paid too much when I stocked up on a few fram filters for 65 bucks during the last run a few years ago... Glad I don't need one now..

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: screamindriver] #1213098
03/22/13 01:38 AM
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I would Love to have an original one or even a repop old one BUT I didn't own my car when they were available. I have a K&N filter but it just doesn't fit the resto theme well of my car. I have to finish the car yet so I would rather pay 143.00 rather then have to pay 400.00 for an old one.
I know it has some differences from the older ones BUT it is better then the K&N. Later on IF one of you guys that seem to have 2,4 6,or 10 of the old ones that you will never use them all want to sell me one at a Reasonable price I would like to get one After I have my car done.

People like me are Happy to have an option to buy a filter that is close to original without the BIG price tag. I WISH I had a few of the old stock ones you guys have!!!
DRE

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03/22/13 06:16 PM
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: 70mopes] #1213100
03/23/13 07:48 AM
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whaddayaknow.....

https://bay173.mail.live.com/default.asp...e3f160&fv=1


Give me your login and password and maybe I can see the link.

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: His and Her 69's] #1213101
03/23/13 07:57 AM
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I would Love to have an original one or even a repop old one BUT I didn't own my car when they were available. I have a K&N filter but it just doesn't fit the resto theme well of my car. I have to finish the car yet so I would rather pay 143.00 rather then have to pay 400.00 for an old one.
I know it has some differences from the older ones BUT it is better then the K&N. Later on IF one of you guys that seem to have 2,4 6,or 10 of the old ones that you will never use them all want to sell me one at a Reasonable price I would like to get one After I have my car done.

People like me are Happy to have an option to buy a filter that is close to original without the BIG price tag. I WISH I had a few of the old stock ones you guys have!!!
DRE




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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: 6PakBee] #1213102
04/11/13 01:46 PM
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check this video out. go to 3:22. the air filter there on a stock 69 car 4 holes exposed, and they do not look to be extruded. looks like the filter on the left in the post above.

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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: mickm] #1213103
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check this video out. go to 3:22. the air filter there on a stock 69 car 4 holes exposed, and they do not look to be extruded. looks like the filter on the right in the post above.




Here you go...

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: A12] #1213104
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that IMO is a better performing air filter srceen than the screen with less opening.

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: A12] #1213105
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that IMO is a better performing air filter srceen than the screen with less opening.




agreed. i'm going to pick up one of these filters...

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: mickm] #1213106
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I've read where 72ls5fla was going to buy a couple & Cody ordered 3 on 3-18-13 of these repo's.

So have you guys received any yet? I would be interested in seeing pics of the quality of just how well it was put together. I'm not interested in the "not beveled hole", or "4 full holes showing" instead of 3. I'm interested in...

1) Is the orange rubber consistent: is it the same thickness all the way around. In other words thick & thin spots vertically?

2) Does the perforated sheet come close to the outside of the rubber to the point it shows through or is outside the rubber?

Seriously,... If some one has received a good looking one,....I'd like to see it?

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: thehemikid] #1213107
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I am going to have them available in three weeks. Price will be $99.00 plus shipping. Its a pretty good repro in a plain box.

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: sailboat] #1213108
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I like plain boxes. Waiting for pics when their ready. Mark

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: thehemikid] #1213109
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I received mine and I'm happy with them. I would post photos, but they look just like the ones already posted.

I heard there's another batch from another supplier coming out soon so maybe those who would like a different option will have it. I'm just glad we have some options again!

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I've read where 72ls5fla was going to buy a couple & Cody ordered 3 on 3-18-13 of these repo's.

So have you guys received any yet? I would be interested in seeing pics of the quality of just how well it was put together. I'm not interested in the "not beveled hole", or "4 full holes showing" instead of 3. I'm interested in...

1) Is the orange rubber consistent: is it the same thickness all the way around. In other words thick & thin spots vertically?

2) Does the perforated sheet come close to the outside of the rubber to the point it shows through or is outside the rubber?

Seriously,... If some one has received a good looking one,....I'd like to see it?




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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: Cuda Cody] #1213110
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Where are ya'll finding these? I have a brandy new Fram still in the box,but after reading this I don't want to use it.Its drawing better interest than a CD.

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: 71birdJ68] #1213111
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Where are ya'll finding these? I have a brandy new Fram still in the box,but after reading this I don't want to use it.Its drawing better interest than a CD.





Anything will get you more interest than a CD !!

Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.) [Re: sailboat] #1213112
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I am going to have them available in three weeks. Price will be $99.00 plus shipping. Its a pretty good repro in a plain box.





$99 is better than $142 over here,...but I don't have any idea how much it would be to ship to Ky? Its 1lb boxed.
When you get a batch could you examine a few, & report back, maybe even take some pics.

I'm just looking for some quality,... not concourse correct.

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