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Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T #1209257 04/03/12 09:07 PM 04/03/12 09:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	The Project: Restore this 71 Challenger back to its former glory. The Crew: Me (Stephen Sigel) and the occasional spare hand to lift things. Basic Info: Restore the car with original options but making some performance upgrades. The car will be changed over to a four speed and upgraded to disc brakes. The Basic goal is to make the car a show car worthy driver for the owner. The Car: Originally the car is a Real 71 Challenger R/T 383 Auto FJ6 car. Since the original drive train is gone we are going to change over the trans to a four speed and the motor plans are undecided. Here is the car as the project gets started...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209258 04/03/12 09:17 PM 04/03/12 09:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Striped out and Rust Revealed...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209259 04/03/12 09:20 PM 04/03/12 09:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Braced the inside of the car up... The new car in boxes, Special Thanks to ROCPAR for the delivery of the parts...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209260 04/03/12 09:22 PM 04/03/12 09:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Front Frame Jig built... The Donor Rails... Blasted...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209261 04/03/12 09:26 PM 04/03/12 09:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	The Rails Are not perfect needed some work... Before... After... Before... After...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209262 04/03/12 09:32 PM 04/03/12 09:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	The New rails Next to the Car... Front End Cut Off... Cowl Removed... Complete Rail and Front Floor Gone... Addressing some rust on the Inner Rocker... Before... After... More to Come

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209263 04/03/12 09:34 PM 04/03/12 09:34 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 311 ama tx J jdr2483 enthusiast
jdr2483 enthusiast J Joined: May 2005 Posts: 311 ama tx	Keep up the good work. Is the Young Gun Project done?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jdr2483] #1209264 04/04/12 08:01 AM 04/04/12 08:01 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	wow you sure do like the big projects! looks like a good start though. 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209265 04/05/12 07:08 AM 04/05/12 07:08 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia L larry4406 mopar
larry4406 mopar L Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia	Wow! I also need to do some front frame rail repairs. What gauge/thickness of metal are you using?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: larry4406] #1209266 04/05/12 08:58 AM 04/05/12 08:58 AM
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68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	sweet!! post up a Buildsheet or fendertag,, love to see options!! jc subscribe looks as if you have a donor car in the weeds!!! awsome your saving such a COOL optioned car!! it will be a show stopper!! lots of work,, but worth it!! LOL my kinda project!!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68427vette] #1209267 04/05/12 10:09 AM 04/05/12 10:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar
CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida	Very ambitious!! Not trying to hijack your thread, but this is an argument I have with my Mopar resto crowd friends. You have a pile of parts that's 90% of a car, call it pile A, and the car in another pile that's 10% of a car, pile B. The only thing that will ever be original about pile B is 10%, the rest is Taiwan steel and repop parts. Everybody is okay with bringing half of China to pile B, but mention rebody, and everybody freaks. If you take the 10% useable stuff from pile B, and put it on another car, doesn't that make it more original than repop Taiwan sheet metal could ever be? The end results are the same, just one is original as Detroit intended, and the other is a modern reproduction. Maybe I'm wrong, we argue about it a lot. Just wanted your take on it. Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com 904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #1209268 04/05/12 10:57 AM 04/05/12 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest 6 68427vette top fuel
68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	Well,, my take is , he s doing everything possible to save the car(restoration), and NOT cutting cowl number and radiator support out and placing it on a donor car(a rebody) lets not hijack this thread, as this topic will always be brought up!! and has been 50 times a year.. there is a clear distinction to the two. Why we care?? i dont.. only the owner,, and future buyer should care.. my 2 cents. jc

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jdr2483] #1209269 04/05/12 02:19 PM 04/05/12 02:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	jdr2483 Yes the 71 Bee is done, still needs some tweaking. Heres a pic... larry4406 I'm using some 3/16" galvanized for the repairs on the rails. CJD Automotive Everyones entitled to their own position on the topic. My opinion is simple, this is a restoration, not a rebody. Follow the thread to watch it, if it were a rebody there would be 10 pics tops of metal work, cut splice, cut splice. Yes new metal is from tawain but has better technology involved in its production and is 40 years newer. Lets end that there, go to general if you want to rant some more...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209270 04/05/12 03:10 PM 04/05/12 03:10 PM
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CuriousYella70 super stock C Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,152 Colorado	Quote: jdr2483 Yes the 71 Bee is done, still needs some tweaking. Heres a pic... larry4406 I'm using some 3/16" galvanized for the repairs on the rails. CJD Automotive Everyones entitled to their own position on the topic. My opinion is simple, this is a restoration, not a rebody. Follow the thread to watch it, if it were a rebody there would be 10 pics tops of metal work, cut splice, cut splice. Yes new metal is from tawain but has better technology involved in its production and is 40 years newer. Lets end that there, go to general if you want to rant some more... Completely agree with the above! Do you have a post with the updated SuperBee photos? I followed your thread and didn't see the finished product - would love to see more shots of the Bee!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CuriousYella70] #1209271 04/05/12 03:17 PM 04/05/12 03:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar
CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida	Sorry guys, wasn't trying to "rant". Just wanted somebody else's opinion. I got it. With an explanation point. Going to the general now to see if someone over their will kick me in the nuts too. Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com 904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #1209272 04/05/12 03:46 PM 04/05/12 03:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,367 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,367 Iowa	Quote: Do you have a post with the updated SuperBee photos? I followed your thread and didn't see the finished product - would love to see more shots of the Bee! You never posted the finished pics. The thread just kind of died. You need post one last update.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209273 04/05/12 04:13 PM 04/05/12 04:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,051 Connecticut jeff968 master
jeff968 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,051 Connecticut	Great project, amazing that with all that rust the area under the battery tray was that clean! i wonder why someone cut that piece out of the cowl? To us to fill in an A/C car opening? Good luck 1970 Dodge Challenger T/A

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jeff968] #1209274 04/05/12 08:17 PM 04/05/12 08:17 PM
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new bee Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	I'm all for this. There will be another cool car driving around when this Challenger is finished. Why scrap it? Here is an opportunity for someone to advance their knowledge in restoration, stay out of trouble (aside from all the tetnis shots he'll need working with that much rust), and put a Dodge Challenger back into circulation. No doubt, there will be enough documentation available for all to see, leaving little doubt what was done to this car. 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: new bee] #1209275 04/05/12 09:19 PM 04/05/12 09:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada NV69B7RR master
NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	Awesome job so far! Its build threads like this that give me/us the inspiration to tackle a restoration of a rusty Mopar. Keep up the great work and pics! 7153059-7097573-Duster.gif (356 downloads) 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: NV69B7RR] #1209276 04/07/12 10:30 AM 04/07/12 10:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks for the kind words guys! Ill try and get another post on the Young Gun thread here shortly. Im real busy these days with multiple projects and work. Updates to come sometime this evening...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: new bee] #1209277 04/07/12 11:09 AM 04/07/12 11:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,268 NY 7 70440+6bbl master
70440+6bbl master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,268 NY	Quote: I'm all for this. There will be another cool car driving around when this Challenger is finished. Why scrap it? Here is an opportunity for someone to advance their knowledge in restoration, stay out of trouble (aside from all the tetnis shots he'll need working with that much rust), and put a Dodge Challenger back into circulation. No doubt, there will be enough documentation available for all to see, leaving little doubt what was done to this car. Haha, great avatar pic, Moss rules! '70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 4.10 Dana N96 EB5 ‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7 ‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 70440+6bbl] #1209278 04/08/12 01:34 AM 04/08/12 01:34 AM
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	What happened to collage? Great work BTW.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209279 04/08/12 01:45 AM 04/08/12 01:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Superfreak Thanks! As far as college goes it was costing me to much money. Trying to pay for college without working was tough. The school i went to wasnt cheap either. Well see how things go from here out i might get back there... I have a couple updates for your guys... I blasted the Original Cowl, its going to need metal work, but i wanted to save the original one so its well worth it...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209280 04/08/12 01:55 AM 04/08/12 01:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	I layed the rails in and triple checked all measurements that i got from the car before cutting the original rails out. I also used the measurements from a body service manual. Point is when i got them dead on i tacked them into place... Then I started mocking up the parts, to see how everything would line up. Overall i am very happy to see that there is only going to be minor tweaking. I need more clamps

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209281 04/08/12 02:00 AM 04/08/12 02:00 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	After i mocked it up i tore it back down to take care of rust on the inner rocker on the passenger side... Before... After... Front end of it was gone, pulled a partial piece off of some scrap that was laying around... Before... After... Thats all for now!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209282 04/08/12 08:30 AM 04/08/12 08:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest 6 68427vette top fuel
68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	i see you went with Goodmark stuff,,,not AMD. well see if those 1/4s fit???

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209283 04/08/12 09:53 AM 04/08/12 09:53 AM
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kfd member Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 22 San Diego	Holy cow!!! This thread is inspiring! I can't wait to see the end result. Man, I need to get a welder and start practicing when I get back stateside. This is an idiot question, but are you using Tig or Mig for all that work?? KFD

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68427vette] #1209284 04/08/12 10:06 AM 04/08/12 10:06 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	68427vette The fenders are GoodMark. Floors, Firewall, and wheel wells are Sherman. Hood, quarters, decklid and many more are AMD. Its a mix bag of bang for buck parts... kfd I am using a MIG welder for all the work. You can use either mig or tig, its just a matter of knowing how to operate the machine and have them set right. Im pretty good with it since I'm a welder, but i taught myself by learning on my 71 Super Bee. Get a welder and practice ...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209285 04/08/12 10:19 AM 04/08/12 10:19 AM
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kfd member Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 22 San Diego	Quote: . Get a welder and practice ... Haha. Thanks! I will see if I can get some facetime with a welder before I get back to the states in August. I am really enjoying the hell out of this thread, I await future installments! KFD

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209286 04/08/12 10:40 AM 04/08/12 10:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	WOW ! It's coming along nicely, and I too am glad to see it being saved. The fact that you only have minor tweaks to make after mocking it up is the result of you're not the least bit shy about bracing the living hell out of the car before you start cutting the old stuff out. Keep up the good work.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JDMopar] #1209287 04/08/12 01:36 PM 04/08/12 01:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 770 Central Utah Mopargnome super stock
Mopargnome super stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 770 Central Utah	Awesome! Doing a project like these I run out of clamps too. Have you tried clecos? For what your doing they are great! I will be watching this thread!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209288 04/09/12 09:16 AM 04/09/12 09:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 549 ohio 70shaker6pk super gas
70shaker6pk super gas Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 549 ohio	Great work!! very nice!!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 70shaker6pk] #1209289 04/09/12 09:44 AM 04/09/12 09:44 AM
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FC7AARcuda member F Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Detroit, MI	Great thread. I'm happy to see someone is saving that car. I was tempted when it was for sale a few years back but knew it was beyond my capabilities.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209290 04/09/12 03:52 PM 04/09/12 03:52 PM
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70_FJ6_RR member 7 Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 142 NJ	Nice work! Glad to see an FJ6 Shaker car saved!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JDMopar] #1209291 04/13/12 07:41 PM 04/13/12 07:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Mopargnome I have used clecos before but just dont like the fact on drilling holes that are not needed. I normally can make due with what i have but i ordered another twenty clamps last week so i hope that will cover it Thanks for the compliments guys. I have been moving a little slow since i have been working 60+ Hours a week lately, so be patient. Anyways i have a little update of the cowl repair. It was quite a bit of work but well worth it to save the original cowl. Tons of pin holes and crusty metal along the front lip and various areas... The way i went about fixing it was using old floor pans that were scrap, cutting out there beads, and welding them into new metal. Since the floor beads were a little bigger i ground them down to the correct size. I made the parts piece by piece and welded them back it. The long and hard way but, its better than cutting numbers out Welded in, side veiw... Back side... The Cowl after...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209292 04/16/12 05:30 PM 04/16/12 05:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	After mocking everything up and being happy with the fit and measurements I welded the rails in place. I added some beads on the inside, 8 plug welds didnt seem like much... Before i Start Assembling the Front i want to do the Pillars, they were pretty Crusty... The Under structure in the corners in going to need repaired as well. After the pillars are installed i will go back and take care of it, repairing it now would be risky since its the only part holding the corner together... The Entire Pillars removed, cleaned and Spray with 3M weld thru...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209293 04/16/12 05:34 PM 04/16/12 05:34 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Mocking Up With Trim to make sure of good gaps and fit... Welded In

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209294 04/16/12 06:22 PM 04/16/12 06:22 PM
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kikgas01 enthusiast K Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 238 Cedar Falls, Iowa	Yep, that is about as rusty(or was as rusty) as my Charger. You have some big gonads taking that on.Nice job.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: kikgas01] #1209295 04/23/12 07:33 PM 04/23/12 07:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Alright Ive got some more updates for you guys. I had everything mocked up and the panels where the firewall is welded too needed a patch, so i took care of that... Repaired... Getting the the floor ready to install i mocked up some brackets to check their placement and fit... Floor all ready to go it... Installed...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209296 04/23/12 07:44 PM 04/23/12 07:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	If you are wondering why i put the holes in the front lip of the floor its because it was easier to weld and grind to the firewall from the backside, the frame rail areas are always troublesome to clean up good... Firewall welded up fitment is great... Since i had the opportunity to get good coverage with paint on the firewall i did, sloppy factory style seem sealer applied as well... I Then proceeded to mock up the front end again. Everything looks good! After clamping them in the inner fenders were 1/16" out of square with each other and the body. After a little tweaking everything looked good... Now onto the next project...Replacing the shock towers... Removed... Thats all for now

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209297 04/25/12 12:27 AM 04/25/12 12:27 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Great work and coming a long quickly.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209298 04/25/12 10:30 PM 04/25/12 10:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 263 CA, USA JcodeCharger enthusiast
JcodeCharger enthusiast Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 263 CA, USA	Man, first your Super Bee now this Challenger? You really have some skill and a promising future in restorations, thats for sure. 68 twin turbo Dart 8.19 so far 70 Swinger 360 69 Roadrunner 383 4 speed 69 Mod Top Satellite 383 auto 69.5 A12 Super Bee 4 speed 70 T/A Challenger 70 FC7 Duster 340 4 speed 70 FJ5 Superbird 68 Hemi 4 speed Roadrunner 71 Duster W2 340

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JcodeCharger] #1209299 04/26/12 11:09 PM 04/26/12 11:09 PM
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unknown mopar U Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 622 sing sing	Its really great all the parts are available for that car, It will be like a new car when its done.Keep up the good work.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209300 05/06/12 08:26 PM 05/06/12 08:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys Some more updates... I had to replace the pitted studs on firewall... Frame repair Pics... I Then Proceeded to clamp the cowl up... Then Weld the cowl in along with shock towers... Next up was the inner fenders...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209301 05/06/12 08:33 PM 05/06/12 08:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Then Welded up the inner fender brackets/ braces... Then I had to repair the mangled rad support... Before... After... Then mocked up the rad support/ inner fender approns. So far everything is lining up great Thats all for now...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209302 05/07/12 07:03 AM 05/07/12 07:03 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	very, very impressive.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209303 05/08/12 02:34 PM 05/08/12 02:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	Nice work! you put a lot of effort in and it shows. you are saving a cool car that a lot of folks would walk away from. good stuff 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209304 05/20/12 12:57 PM 05/20/12 12:57 PM
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AZMoparboy member A Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 30 Chandler AZ USA	Hi there, I see that you have been working very hard on your 71 Challenger. I have one too, but it is not as rusty as yours. You are helping me so much with all of the pic's of your progress. My Challenger is not a numbers matching car either, with lots of small holes all over it. New fire wall, all floors, roof, a pillars, just to tell you the condition of it. Looking forward to more of your progress and thanks for all of the time you have put into this thread. Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209305 05/20/12 01:09 PM 05/20/12 01:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	"Restore the car back to its original options but making some performance upgrades" VERY impressive work Stephen!!! Since you're modding the car to 4-speed and disc brakes are you thinking of MAYBE going with a 440 instead of a 383?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1209306 05/27/12 01:38 PM 05/27/12 01:38 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 2,107 Third Stone from the Sun Scotts72Rallye top fuel
Scotts72Rallye top fuel Joined: May 2008 Posts: 2,107 Third Stone from the Sun	Great work Steve,your becoming one helluva auto "reviver", someone who brings cars back from the dead! Hat's off to you! Scott 1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209307 05/27/12 05:57 PM 05/27/12 05:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,650 Harm City Md. Dan Halen top fuel
Dan Halen top fuel Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,650 Harm City Md.	WOW, I am way too lazy to do something like that.....good thing there are guys like you out there. Great job!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Dan Halen] #1209308 06/05/12 11:29 AM 06/05/12 11:29 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I love following this thread! Great work on your car! The pics are as good as the welding.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209309 07/21/12 12:36 AM 07/21/12 12:36 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys! Sorry i haven't updated in awhile i have been very busy with work and getting things ready for Carlisle. The Super Bee was in building T this year i wanted to do some last minute things to make it look its best Pacnorthcuda I believe it will go to a 440, many things are up in the air as of now but i am thinking that the build with be based off how it was from the factory with a modern twist (maybe an extra gear, 4 wheel discs, and upgraded factory stuff like a 440, dana, etc)

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209310 07/24/12 10:17 PM 07/24/12 10:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Ill update whats been going on lately... I mocked up the radiator before i welded the front back together. You can never be sure too much!!! Welded and Removed... Then i proceeded to mount the fenders for the first time to keep everything in line as i proceeds through the resto.... Now that the front end is basically done, i moved into the middle of the car which is by for the worst area due to the degree of rust. I Removed the roof...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209311 07/24/12 10:23 PM 07/24/12 10:23 PM
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HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	What i found after removing the roof was a little discouraging, it was extremely bad, not only rusted, but wrecked on the drivers side... So i proceeded to to repair this area piece by piece because reproduction parts are not available and had no luck finding roof structures that were decent here in PA... After repairing the roof areas i proceeded into making a jig for the back half of the vehicle... I did basically the same as i did in the front using a "cup" design to cradle the frame rails in their original position...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209312 07/24/12 10:29 PM 07/24/12 10:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	I mocked the roof skin and drip rail areas then, not being comfortably with just welding away and causing problems down i the road i wanted to mock up critical panels (quarters and deck lid) to make sure that everything is roughly in place... Things roughly came together extremely well. The rear gaps i was impressed with from the start(minor tweaking needed)... I also mocked up the trim to make sure it would go on well due to the large amount of fabrication in the original roof structure.... That is all for now...Stay tuned for more updates!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209313 07/25/12 09:22 AM 07/25/12 09:22 AM
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JS29R0B top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,632 TN	Man you have been hard at it.Awesome work!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209314 07/25/12 06:17 PM 07/25/12 06:17 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	you are a talented, hard working and patient dude! Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: DPelletier] #1209315 10/22/12 09:33 AM 10/22/12 09:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Hey Guys, Its been awhile since an update, I have had a lot of stuff going. But anyways here we go... I removed the drivers side rocker to find some serious damage... Some patches required... Mocking things up for fit... Fabrication of Patch Panels Installed... Final results after install... Now moving to the Passenger side... The rocker Panel is not correct. It appears that they took the dimensions from the drivers side and just flipped them for the passenger side, which is just a bit longer (short on driver due to the floor/firewall difference by the high beam switch). I will have to stretch the part before installing... Difference in original and repop... Stay tuned...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209316 10/22/12 11:43 AM 10/22/12 11:43 AM
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68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	what repo rocker did you buy? AMD? or goodmark? or other?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68427vette] #1209317 10/23/12 12:32 PM 10/23/12 12:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	68427vette The Rocker Panel is a Sherman Part. I havent heard if they updated things or not. I also do not know if other brands are giving the same problems...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209318 10/27/12 09:25 AM 10/27/12 09:25 AM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Keep up the great work! As a '71 Challenger fan, I'm glad to see another one being brought back to life - especially a Shaker car in a cool colour!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: YYZ] #1209319 10/27/12 12:08 PM 10/27/12 12:08 PM
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Benji member B Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 53 Bluffton, Indiana	I'm impressed! YOU da man. I will do an automobile paraphrase of something General George Patton said about dead soldiers. We shouldn't mourn for the rustbucket cars, we should be thankful we have guys like HemiChallenger who can breathe new life into them. Benji

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Benji] #1209320 10/27/12 12:32 PM 10/27/12 12:32 PM
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NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	I am continually impressed and amazed at the level of work you're doing. You have a talent for metal working that will get you far in life, keep it going!! 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Benji] #1209321 10/27/12 12:43 PM 10/27/12 12:43 PM
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Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	This thread is a jaw-dropper. Your fabrication skills are AMAZING. I can't help think that your skills could be better applied (I mean that in the best way) to a really high-end project. Save a trashed hemicuda, wing car, AC Cobra, GT40, Ferrari Daytona etc. PLEASE! This thread should be a BOOK, its that informative about what a talented human can achieve in his garage with skill and determination. I'm in awe.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1209322 10/27/12 05:19 PM 10/27/12 05:19 PM
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Benji member B Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 53 Bluffton, Indiana	Quote: This thread is a jaw-dropper. Your fabrication skills are AMAZING. I can't help think that your skills could be better applied (I mean that in the best way) to a really high-end project. Save a trashed hemicuda, wing car, AC Cobra, GT40, Ferrari Daytona etc. PLEASE! This thread should be a BOOK, its that informative about what a talented human can achieve in his garage with skill and determination. I'm in awe. I agree 100% and yet we have the naysayers that claim no one should attempt to resurrect these cars once they are this far gone but instead crush them. I say once they are gone, they are gone. Save 'em while they can be saved. Benji

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1209323 10/28/12 10:52 PM 10/28/12 10:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Quote: This thread is a jaw-dropper. Your fabrication skills are AMAZING. I can't help think that your skills could be better applied (I mean that in the best way) to a really high-end project. Save a trashed hemicuda, wing car, AC Cobra, GT40, Ferrari Daytona etc. PLEASE! This thread should be a BOOK, its that informative about what a talented human can achieve in his garage with skill and determination. I'm in awe. And this is a young man in his early to mid 20's at best!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JDMopar] #1209324 10/30/12 11:01 AM 10/30/12 11:01 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! I appreciate the compliments. If you can find me a ultra rare project let me know... I Would love to do something like that... Few more pics of update in the rocker area on the passenger side... Before... After... Installed... More pataches

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209325 10/30/12 10:45 PM 10/30/12 10:45 PM
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69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Outstanding metal work!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 69Cuda340S] #1209326 10/31/12 02:32 AM 10/31/12 02:32 AM
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big-block-dave super stock B Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,187 USA	Following and very impressed!!! Is there a post on here showing the '71 Super Bee resto? I'd like to see that one also! I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: big-block-dave] #1209327 11/01/12 11:06 AM 11/01/12 11:06 AM
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1Fryedfish mopar Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 439 Harrisburg Pa	Quote: Following and very impressed!!! Is there a post on here showing the '71 Super Bee resto? I'd like to see that one also! https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=3&fpart=1 There is a link to the bee he did

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 1Fryedfish] #1209328 11/01/12 02:33 PM 11/01/12 02:33 PM
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aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	the 71 bee post is still my favorite post on moparts 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209329 11/11/12 10:14 AM 11/11/12 10:14 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	I've followed your threads. Very nice work. The one question I have is after doing all the work to the Challenger, how many dollars were spent on sheet metal alone? It had to be way more cost effective to start with a better shell. I could be wrong but sheet metal and paint look to be 15K in materials alone. Doug

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: dvw] #1209330 11/13/12 06:08 PM 11/13/12 06:08 PM
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68_661charger super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Indiana	I can't speak for Stephen but yeah, in some cases it might be better to start with a better shell if you can locate one but I actually like this part of the process alot. I have a real rusty 69 Charger that I've had since HS that I'm determined to save so I can relate to the cause here. Great thread btw...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68_661charger] #1209331 11/13/12 08:47 PM 11/13/12 08:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	sometimes it is just the chalenge of saving an old car that motivates folks. i did a duster up for an old buddy about 4 years ago he wanted that car so we went at it. about all that is really original on that car is the roof and one door but we had fun and made a cool car. the money was not the decding factor for him it was the sentimental value of the car. 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209332 11/13/12 10:43 PM 11/13/12 10:43 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Not saying I haven't done it myself. A six cylinder Duster 340 clone no less. It is a lot of fun, just not very cost effective. My latest project used an entire roll of mig wire. With no good patch panels available I had to fabricate the patches. No where near unambitious as the Challenger. Good luck. And again impressive work. Doug 7461134-0722122141.jpg (232 downloads)

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: dvw] #1209333 11/15/12 04:17 PM 11/15/12 04:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	dvw Let say you take two cars, Car A is this car, a rusted 71 383 R/T Shaker car. Car B is a standard east coast car of same options, needing quarters, fenders, floors, firwall and cowl etc. Price calculations... Car A: Cost of car $3000 Cost of sheetmetal $12000 Total $15000 Car B: Cost of car $9000 Cost of sheetmetal $6000 Total $15000 Now were talking rough estimates here but i can tell you that those are real figure based off of a car i sold and this car. The cost is going to be roughly the same, yes you might be better off finding a "better canidate" but find me another 71 challenger R/T 383 shaker car is FJ6 in better shape. I highly doubt you could find another. At the end of the day your going to be looking at similar figures on both shells. So cost to me i dont see much of a difference unless your paying a restoration shop $75 and hour. At that point yes your looking at potentially a $10,000 difference. At the end of the restoration of this car there is going to be one more Challenger saved and on the road, not melted down to become a Toyota Prius.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209334 11/15/12 05:20 PM 11/15/12 05:20 PM
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70440+6bbl master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,268 NY	Quote: At the end of the restoration of this car there is going to be one more Challenger saved and on the road, not melted down to become a Toyota Prius. And that is what it is all about, well said

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 70440+6bbl] #1209335 11/15/12 09:53 PM 11/15/12 09:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	i have to ask, do you enjoy the work? i know i do, sure i get burn't out from time to time but i get a real feeling of satisfaction from saving these cool old car's 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209336 11/16/12 10:08 PM 11/16/12 10:08 PM
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67446DART member 6 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 83 Manchester , Md.	Quote: i have to ask, do you enjoy the work? i know i do, sure i get burn't out from time to time but i get a real feeling of satisfaction from saving these cool old car's I am glad peolpe save cars like this!! 67 Dart GT 10.5,mild,446,727,906heads,minitubbed,leafs,caltracks,410's,3290#w/out driver,10:87 @123w/ a 1.53 60ft

Wow! [Re: 67446DART] #1209337 11/17/12 12:21 AM 11/17/12 12:21 AM
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Meangreen68 enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	There needs to be a trophy for such work! ...and to think, some folks are content with laying on the couch all day. Carry on

Re: Wow! [Re: Meangreen68] #1209338 11/17/12 10:46 AM 11/17/12 10:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario YYZ master
YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	At one time I would have thought that the extent of this work was a bit crazy (not that I haven't fixed rustbuckets) and logic still dictates that you try to find as clean a shell as possible. However, E-bodies were moisture traps: even cars from very dry climates will often have damaged trunk floors, extensions, lower quarters and dutchman panels. So one may wind up replacing much of the same metal anyway. Given the extensive amount of high-quality reproduction sheetmetal available now it enables a hobbyist to buy a car reasonably and to end up with a shell as good or better than new over time. Again, I'm enjoying the progress on this one and can't wait for the next update!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209339 11/18/12 08:05 PM 11/18/12 08:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys! Yes i do enjoy doing this, there is many highs and lows though. Things are good and then there is more rust, and that pattern continues. When its all done its the ultimate achievement, to be able to look at the pictures from before, during, and then to look at the car, well its satisfying. Anyways, back to some pics... I have to make extensive repairs to front end door jamb. As you can see much of the panel is missing... After repairs... Now since the car was wrecked we had many issues with the inside webbing on the drivers side. The webbing was mangled and pushed in from wreck. The door jamb was really hacked up to make the door fit originally. This shows the issue... Before I also had to modify to rocker, the bend where slightly off and not level... Then i started the webbing repair by making some repair panels... Before... Part made... Installed... Thats all for now...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209340 11/19/12 07:20 PM 11/19/12 07:20 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Nice work, keep it up. I agree it is very satisfying after the work is complete.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209341 11/24/12 12:55 AM 11/24/12 12:55 AM
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mopar383 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,469 NE Ohio	Nice work 81 Dodge Ram My dad bought brand new... my 17 year old sons project Jeep Wrangler Unlimited .....my wife's baby Durango....my DD Caravan...an awesome parts hauler 72 Dart

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: mopar383] #1209342 11/24/12 11:29 PM 11/24/12 11:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys i got some updates... There was a lot of damage in a lot of parts and contours of the inside webbing on the quarter panel. I spent a lot of time straightening this area. Here it is fix and door jam installed... I also installed a new AMD pass side jam. The contour was of some but nothing to bad. Great fit overall I thought i would show you a couple more shots of the original rails before i remove them... Rails and pans removed. I added locator for the the leaf spring hangers in the rear that work out great, locating the height and the depth with stops. I am also measuring but they put them right on with one side off only a 1/16, and easy fix... Thats all for now!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209343 11/25/12 01:53 PM 11/25/12 01:53 PM
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AAR#2 super stock A Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 768 Dry Heat AZ	Wow, I've been watching along in silence for some time . . . . incredible ! Now for some questions . . . 1) Please tell me your dad is a body shop guy who couldn't afford daycare for you in the early days, forced you to learn a trade at the age of 5 and you have 15 years experience at the start of this project (it would help me to feel better about my capabilities and ambition) 2) Does anyone help you think through your repairs at this point in your work (refer to Q1 above perhaps, or another mentor?) 3) It appears the start car was more of a rolling Jig for you to get pickup points and a roadmap, how many pieces are really going to be the original car when your done? (maybe guess a percentage, and please dont read into this, it's really just a curiosity question) 4) Whoever your mentor is should be commended and thanked, not many your age have the knowledge, ambition, facilities, or financial backing to do what your doing. I have a good friend thats been a mentor to me, reading through your posts has reminded me to express my appreciation for all he has done. Take care, and good luck wiith the rest of your project.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209344 11/25/12 06:01 PM 11/25/12 06:01 PM
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Stevo427 member S Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 16 California	Wow holy crap that's a good project right there. Just curious what kind of primer are you using over your repairs?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: AAR#2] #1209345 11/25/12 07:17 PM 11/25/12 07:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	AAR#2 1) Please tell me your dad is a body shop guy who couldn't afford daycare for you in the early days, forced you to learn a trade at the age of 5 and you have 15 years experience at the start of this project (it would help me to feel better about my capabilities and ambition) I really wish that was the case here. The truth is i taught myself how to do things by browsing the web, buying the right tools, making mistakes and learning from them. I then landed a welding job which enhanced my skills with metal and welding. When it comes to body work and painting, i owe all of that to a local old timer who i would go to his place after high school and work on projects of his for free in exchange for knowledge. 2) Does anyone help you think through your repairs at this point in your work (refer to Q1 above perhaps, or another mentor?) No, I honestly spend countless hours thinking of the best and easiest approach to everything. A lot of thinking comes before cutting and then welding. I know the body of these cars inside and out which helps as well. 3) It appears the start car was more of a rolling Jig for you to get pickup points and a roadmap, how many pieces are really going to be the original car when your done? (maybe guess a percentage, and please dont read into this, it's really just a curiosity question) This is very true, and no offense is taken. When the car is done, i would guess your looking at 10% of the original metal being present. In other words its going to be 90% new metal will last longer. I salvaged the original cowl and rad support, since it had the numbers on it, and the inner webbing of the vehicle. Stevo427 The Primer that i use in the welding and structural areas that will be covered is 3M weld-thru 2. Its the best product that i have found. Easily welds, unlike others that are galvanizing compound, this does not spit and spatter and blow holes in the clean metal. Its also a corrosion resistant coating that is great in areas that are covered. You can get them in aerosals, but its not cheap about $20 a can.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209346 11/26/12 11:07 PM 11/26/12 11:07 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa clonedshaker+6 enthusiast
clonedshaker+6 enthusiast Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa	so how many spot welds do 71 challenger have hahaha you have seemed to cut them all out im in the process of restoring a 71 challenger as well (my HS graduation present 440sixpack shaker CLONE) keep up the good work, cant wait to see it done 71 challenger 440 sixpack shaker CLONE (71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present) 03 mustang Mach 1 (daily driver) 11.35 @ 121.5 4 SPEED on F60-15s w/ 6/32 tread

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: clonedshaker+6] #1209347 11/27/12 08:54 PM 11/27/12 08:54 PM
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HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Alright guys a few updates for you... I mocked up the rails and two cross members. Fit was pretty good on the parts, a few areas needed addressing... The inside of the one rail was not straight, easy fix... Fixed... Rails and cross members installed... Keep Tuned...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209348 11/27/12 10:47 PM 11/27/12 10:47 PM
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OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Very impressive. You are really coming along. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: OhioMopar] #1209349 11/28/12 12:55 AM 11/28/12 12:55 AM
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68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	i had to re-breeze through the thread,, when i saw the first photos on page one and NOTICED your shaker firewall hole!! then later you stated it is a "71 challenger R/T 383 shaker car in FJ6" Did Tai get you on the N96 list? and FT? BS? my EL5 71 N96 is about this bad also! but will be saved, love this thread!! make sure you drill that hole right... and yes, ive had many who think i'm crazy for saving my 71 EL5 car...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68427vette] #1209350 11/29/12 12:55 AM 11/29/12 12:55 AM
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69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Excellent skills and workmanship there.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 69Cuda340S] #1209351 11/29/12 09:34 AM 11/29/12 09:34 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci master
wally426ci master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	The work that you're doing is amazing. I know you get about 1 in 3 responses like that but I had to say it. Since we're both on the east coast, what is your method of treating the rust since you're are dealing with such a rusty shell to begin with? Also, are you an epoxy primer kind of guy or etching? I ask because there will come a time when I break my 71 back down and do it right. I'll aspire to get results like yours to the best of my abilities.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: wally426ci] #1209352 11/29/12 04:16 PM 11/29/12 04:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Etching primer is what i use. To properly use expoxy you have to use etch before and it seems like a waste of money if your not going to stowe the car in a corner for a few years. Of course you will have to re etch and apply 2k primer when its gets to the point of body work. But for the time being with the car indoors and constantly being worked i go with etch. There is a huge debate with the two but if you do it right with etch and cover it right after you will be fine

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209353 11/30/12 09:40 PM 11/30/12 09:40 PM
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cudaman440_1 member C Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 39	Hey Stephen,Very nice work your doing.can you give me some tips on welding sheet metal with a mig.like wire size,wire speed,arc voltage,range setting.This is my first time welding sheet metal and you look like a good guy to ask.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: cudaman440_1] #1209354 12/03/12 11:40 PM 12/03/12 11:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	cudaman440_1 Check your PM's I sent you some basic info... I did some more work, first had to repair the rail/rocker part... Repaired... Rear Butt Pan Drilled and Ready to go in... Installed... Rear Floor Pans Installed... Trunk Braced Installed on new trunk Pan... Trunk Floor Laid in Ready to be welded... Thats All for now!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209355 12/04/12 09:01 AM 12/04/12 09:01 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci master
wally426ci master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	Excellent. How are you treating the rusty metal that will remain? IE: not rotten, surface rust.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: wally426ci] #1209356 12/09/12 01:37 PM 12/09/12 01:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	wally426ci Any surface rust that remains will be blasted, and cleaned inside and out. then covered with etch and 2k prim, then into paint, im holding off on that until i have replaced all parts in or around the area of rust, will only be the inner webbing of vehicle really. Which will all be blasted, or has if it was covered and it was given weld thru primer until it can be entirely blasted and prepped for paint... Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209357 12/18/12 02:49 PM 12/18/12 02:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 187 Las Vegas LVSRT10 Not the new guy anymore!
LVSRT10 Not the new guy anymore! Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 187 Las Vegas	I have no words to describe how awestruck I am by this. I have lived in the desert my whole life, and can tell you back in the day we parted out cars that were FAR less rusty than this because we thought they were too far gone. Your skills and patience are commendable. --Jeff

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: LVSRT10] #1209358 01/01/13 07:36 PM 01/01/13 07:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Hey Guys been awhile since an update, been pretty busy lately, been working on some other things. Anyways... Been working on the wheelhouses and trunk extensions, A lot of work went into making these things fit, The trunk extensions fit well, but the wheel tubs inner and out are very poor... Tubs welded together, seat belt bracket installed. The holes that are pre punched were even close. They were an inch plus off, and thats not including have to cut new metal to make them work Installed... Now the passenger side i remembered to take pics of the modifications. The tubs are too long, pushing the trunk extensions down. Therefore the quarters do no fit. It was not too bad to fix, just extra work I had some rust to fix before on the seat belt bracket and the webbing... Tubs and trunk extension installed and modified... Thats all for now, getting close

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209359 01/01/13 08:47 PM 01/01/13 08:47 PM
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aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	you must get an amazing feeling of satisfaction as you see and feel it coming together! really nice work 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209360 01/01/13 09:35 PM 01/01/13 09:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 454 Ashville, Manitoba, Canada superbeeman69 super street
superbeeman69 super street Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 454 Ashville, Manitoba, Canada	I'm watching this with extreme enthusiasm my 70 FM3 challenger is at least this bad. Could you PM me basic info on the jigging used and placement? What im worried about is the car folding in on itself or not able to be placed on a jig like that, BUT my frame rails and torsion mount are just as bad as yours were so maybe I'm wrong. Have all your measurements stayed true throughout the process? I'm a body tech by trade and what you are doing and I am facing, is daunting, even to me. Keep it up! Awesome job bud from one young gun to another! 1970 FM3 Coronet 440, 1971 FJ6 Dude D100

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: superbeeman69] #1209361 01/08/13 08:45 PM 01/08/13 08:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys... Been working on the tail panel...Boy i wish that had reproduction ones! Sadly the best that we could find to replace ours, was still bad... Lower flange made... Sides redone, all blended, and blasted... Primed... I went ahead and mocked it up, everything fits very well now i just need to bend the floors up to weld... What it will and should look like (for those who do not know)

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209362 01/08/13 10:50 PM 01/08/13 10:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA B bschargerse master
bschargerse master B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA	Hey Steve! Happy New Year and great work!!! I've been silently following along. If you decide to keep the car 383 powered as original, I have a 71 383 HP short block. It was remanufactured by a rebuilder years ago, its .040 with a steel crank, and doesn't have a lot of miles on it, but should be gone thru. I'm not sure what it came out of, but its a 71 block. If you are interested in it, let me know. For you the price is cheap. Oh, and my 69 Charger is still awaiting your skills Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger "The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209363 01/08/13 11:38 PM 01/08/13 11:38 PM
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clonedshaker+6 enthusiast Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa	i feel the exact same way i wish they repoduce the 71 tail light panel, i also had to replace my panel it was rotted which wasnt bad but it was so bent from me car getting hit directly where the quarter meets the tail light panel finding a good panel is rare. car is looking good 71 challenger 440 sixpack shaker CLONE (71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present) 03 mustang Mach 1 (daily driver) 11.35 @ 121.5 4 SPEED on F60-15s w/ 6/32 tread

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209364 01/09/13 12:29 AM 01/09/13 12:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Looking like it's getting down to the short rows on metal replacement. You kinda lost me on the "bend the floors up to weld" thing. Does the trunk pan protrude that far out from under the tail panel? If so,are all Challengers like that, or just 71's? I guess I'm lucky that I've never had to deal with what you have on this car!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: bschargerse] #1209365 01/09/13 08:50 AM 01/09/13 08:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri 68KillerBee master
68KillerBee master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri	Quote: Hey Steve! Happy New Year and great work!!! I've been silently following along. If you decide to keep the car 383 powered as original, I have a 71 383 HP short block. It was remanufactured by a rebuilder years ago, its .040 with a steel crank, and doesn't have a lot of miles on it, but should be gone thru. I'm not sure what it came out of, but its a 71 block. If you are interested in it, let me know. For you the price is cheap. Oh, and my 69 Charger is still awaiting your skills I think the guy has a drive train in place for it. Should be a beast. Still amazed with the work you do on these cars.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68KillerBee] #1209366 01/09/13 09:28 AM 01/09/13 09:28 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci master
wally426ci master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	Great work as always. I am learning alot about the inner workings of sheet metal on my car by watching your build.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209367 01/11/13 11:20 AM 01/11/13 11:20 AM
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HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	bschargerse Hey Brian, thanks for the offer but the motor plans have already been taken care of. Check you PM's on Charger... JDMopar All the challengers are this way, the floors get folded up (as seen in the second pic. If you look at the tailpanel its no where near strait... Its getting close for sure, I'll be very happy once all this metal work is done

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209368 01/12/13 01:04 AM 01/12/13 01:04 AM
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JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,485 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	Thanks Steve. I went downstairs and moved some junk from around my 70 A66 Challenger, and was able to see it better. I have to put a trunk floor in that car, so thanks for showing that detail.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JDMopar] #1209369 01/15/13 09:39 PM 01/15/13 09:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Hey Guys a little bit of an update for you. I pulled the rear speaker tray to get better access to straighten and blast... The damage... Blasted and looking like new... We had no braces so i pulled some from a donor car out back... I proceeded to mock the entire back end up to check out how all the panels fit together, Overall its not to bad, will need some small tweaking... Good gaps after some quick tweaks... Now The decklid is a whole different story, its bad. I initially put it on but then swapped out for an original. You can actually fell the difference on the passenger side, youll see why below... Original... The repop... Keep Tuned

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209370 01/18/13 09:56 PM 01/18/13 09:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Were getting close! I pulled the hinges apart to blast, then rewelded... Deck Filler Installed... After installing deck filler placed hinges into place... Then proceeded to install tail panel, bent floor up just like factory... Almost There! Going to take the car off of the Jig tomorrow, this way i can properly install the Quarters. I can not install the rear valance the way that the jig is designed. Before ya know it well be on the rotisserie

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209371 01/22/13 10:22 PM 01/22/13 10:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Ok small update... First off the car came off the JIG!!!!!!! We wanted to use an aftermarket rad support for the car since were adding some extra stiffening and horsepower to it. After seeing whats on the market and the limited availability we decided the best option was to just make one. I thought that the best way to do it was to make it look as close to factory as possible. I started by using to factory mounts to make the install as clean as possible... I made some extensions for the rad support to make it clean and factory looking... Welded them top, bottom, and inside out Then i trimmed the bottom down some (thought it was too bulky) and added some curves for cosmetics on the outside. The final product is below(more grinding needed)... In the end i think its close to factory with a lot more rigidity!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209372 02/16/13 12:33 AM 02/16/13 12:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Getting ready to put quarters on... Trunk lock bracket installed... Misc. Brackets Cleaned for re-installation... Quarters Installed... Floor cut for Hump... The Trans... Mocking up the trans, modifying the tunnel for potential clearance issues... Mocking up rear, checking for tire clearance...Looks bad

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209373 02/16/13 03:07 AM 02/16/13 03:07 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Holy ding Dang that was quick, looks great from my end.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209374 02/16/13 09:52 AM 02/16/13 09:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar master
OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Wow! Impressive.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: OhioMopar] #1209375 02/19/13 09:07 PM 02/19/13 09:07 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa clonedshaker+6 enthusiast
clonedshaker+6 enthusiast Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa	looks awsome are you using a flip top gas cap? if you are you might want to check fitment both my original and repro flip tops dont fit the new AMD quarter, the part that cap sits in is not recessed enough. i know another guy that the same thing happened to so you might want to check that and compare to an original quarter before you do any body work 71 challenger 440 sixpack shaker CLONE (71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present) 03 mustang Mach 1 (daily driver) 11.35 @ 121.5 4 SPEED on F60-15s w/ 6/32 tread

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: clonedshaker+6] #1209376 02/20/13 10:44 AM 02/20/13 10:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys! I have heard of the issues with the AMD quarters for the flip top. I am going to mock everything up on the car before body work... Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209377 02/23/13 06:05 PM 02/23/13 06:05 PM
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aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	that looks awesome! that car is lucky to have ended up with you. 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209378 02/24/13 01:29 AM 02/24/13 01:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 193 Clinton Township, Michigan R Rocpar member
Rocpar member R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 193 Clinton Township, Michigan	Excellent work Steve! I spoke to Pete today at the Columbus meet.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #1209379 03/03/13 08:04 PM 03/03/13 08:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,395 Highland, MI. Sunroofcuda master
Sunroofcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,395 Highland, MI.	Quote: Sorry guys, wasn't trying to "rant". Just wanted somebody else's opinion. I got it. With an explanation point. Going to the general now to see if someone over their will kick me in the nuts too. Craig, I'm with you. I would have re-bodied this Challenger in a heartbeat & not told anybody about it, & ended up with a better result. But Stephen, I commend you for cutting & welding this thing back together. '71 Bee looks great - I donated parts for that project - parts I had saved for many years for my never even started '71 Hemi Charger that burned up. -Eric No Man With A Good Car Needs To Be Justified

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209380 03/06/13 10:51 AM 03/06/13 10:51 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys! Finished The floor Hump mods for the trans... Door Repair... The new skins came damaged, but since they are impossible to find in stock we'll have to deal with it Installed... Last but not least, its on the Rotisserie!! Thats all for now guys

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209381 03/15/13 06:51 PM 03/15/13 06:51 PM
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bschargerse master B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA	Very impressive Steve!!! Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger "The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: bschargerse] #1209382 03/22/13 10:54 PM 03/22/13 10:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Brian! Small update of some pics. Nothing too exciting going on right now, just sanding Torque Boxes Installed with hand built frame connectors... Console Brackets Installed... Bottom prepped for prime.... Leading Seems... Thats all for now

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209383 03/23/13 08:06 AM 03/23/13 08:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia L larry4406 mopar
larry4406 mopar L Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 520 Virginia	Very nice work. Address the e-brake cable & adjuster rod interference with the frame connectors before you get too far.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: larry4406] #1209384 03/23/13 11:47 AM 03/23/13 11:47 AM
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suzkat110 member S Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4 australia	mate... I am loving this thread... thanks so much for posting!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: suzkat110] #1209385 03/28/13 01:23 PM 03/28/13 01:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Guys! I will be addressing the issues surrounding the the e brake cables... Yesterday was a great day, we now have the motor built and dynoed. It sounds great and the best pull was 540HP/500TRQ....

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209386 03/29/13 11:26 PM 03/29/13 11:26 PM
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69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Awesome work!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 69Cuda340S] #1209387 04/16/13 06:03 PM 04/16/13 06:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks! Not much to post pictures over right now... a lot of sanding going on. I will post up some pics after i have a few worth posting! Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209388 04/17/13 05:40 AM 04/17/13 05:40 AM
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a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	Awesome, I'm jealous of what some of you guys can accomplish. I can't afford this. mark

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: a12superbee] #1209389 05/07/13 04:06 PM 05/07/13 04:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks man! I will be posting up some more pics here shortly! Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209390 05/11/13 09:40 AM 05/11/13 09:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Ok guys i finally got around to putting up some pics. I have more on some of the mods we have made but i will post those up later... Mocking up e brake cables to make slots in frame connectors... Inside prepped then painted... Trunk prepped and painted... Bottom prepped and painted... Thats all for now... I'll put more up shortly on some of the mods that have been done... Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209391 05/11/13 10:01 AM 05/11/13 10:01 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	WOW! Looking good.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209392 05/11/13 02:04 PM 05/11/13 02:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 524 Mesa, AZ B Bill_T mopar
Bill_T mopar B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 524 Mesa, AZ	What did you use for seam sealer? Amazing work. Car was past saving IMO and you resurrected it.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Bill_T] #1209393 05/12/13 10:12 AM 05/12/13 10:12 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys. The seal sealer is Transtar Ultra Flex seam sealer (brush kind). I have been using it one all my projects. It very easy to work with but sets up fast so you have to move fast.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209394 05/13/13 08:47 AM 05/13/13 08:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	now that you have some colour on it does that motivate you more? 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209395 06/12/13 10:07 AM 06/12/13 10:07 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	aspenrt360 Yes the color certainly makes you want it done yesterday. Once the body hits color i will be ready to rock n roll. Until then i still gotta make it perfect Got some more updates for you guys... Engine bay with some prime... Engine bay in color... Firewall mod for the vintage air.. Now building some perfect gaps... Finished to 3/16"...now just have to do the rest of the car Thanks all for now

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209396 06/12/13 11:21 AM 06/12/13 11:21 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Damn!!!!!!! That's looking mighty fine there young fella. Has your customer seen the car at this stage?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209397 06/12/13 12:54 PM 06/12/13 12:54 PM
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RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Quote: i still gotta make it perfect That statement is certainly reflected in your work... Good to see the word conviction is still known in some circles...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: RSNOMO] #1209398 06/13/13 10:31 AM 06/13/13 10:31 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	that is going to rock with that hemi in it! 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209399 06/14/13 03:06 AM 06/14/13 03:06 AM
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bdusted440 member Joined: May 2013 Posts: 172 IL,USA	Wicked impressed!!!!!!!!! It's inspired me to rotisserie my car.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: bdusted440] #1209400 06/14/13 09:45 AM 06/14/13 09:45 AM
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renegade0131 member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 15 N.E. Ohio	Looking good Steve! Can't wait to see it up close when I visit you in a few weeks.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: renegade0131] #1209401 06/14/13 11:56 PM 06/14/13 11:56 PM
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a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	Talent always makes it looks easy. I can't afford this. mark

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: ] #1209402 06/17/13 11:24 AM 06/17/13 11:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks for all the compliments guys, im glad you like it. I'm glad we're in the homestrech with the body...What a long road it has been! Superfreak Yes, the customer sees the car quite often as he does not live to terribly far from me. He's excited to see the car coming back together...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209403 06/18/13 10:30 AM 06/18/13 10:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	Great work Steve. You saved that one. You might want to dry fit the gas cap and trim ring,(if you are using a flip top cap) before paint. There are fitment issues on the repop quarters when using flip top caps. Make sure you fit it with the filler tube in place. Pete Last edited by chargervert; 06/18/13 10:32 AM. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: chargervert] #1209404 06/18/13 03:18 PM 06/18/13 03:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I'm curious to why you painted the underside, inside and so on before doing the exterior body work/primer. Now you have to mask it off multiple times, be a lot more careful and take a lot more time in doing so. Looks good though 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: Silver70] #1209405 06/19/13 12:00 AM 06/19/13 12:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Indiana 6 68_661charger super stock
68_661charger super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Indiana	I thought this was a car you were doing for yourself? Either way great job.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: chargervert] #1209406 06/20/13 11:48 AM 06/20/13 11:48 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	chargervert Thanks! I already checked out the flip top fitment issues. I dont know if i got lucky or what, but mine fit just fine, compared it with an original quarter and its just fine Silver70 Even though i painted everything its going to have a minimal effect on everything else. Ill assembly it once, fix all our problems and then disassemble for priming. I would still have to mask everything off either way, so i didnt really see it as a problem... paironines At one point my dad owned the car, but he sold it to the gentleman that i am doing the car for. Now we wish we had it back

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209407 07/07/13 05:19 PM 07/07/13 05:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586 Tampa, FL tpabayflyer pro stock
tpabayflyer pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586 Tampa, FL	Nice work....... Keep us posted! TBF 71 Challenger 528 Hemi project 09 Gr Cherokee 5.7 hemi in da house!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209408 07/07/13 06:25 PM 07/07/13 06:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,135 New Mexico UCUDANT Troll Hunter
UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,135 New Mexico	Glad to see you're still at it, amazing work

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: UCUDANT] #1209409 07/16/13 09:46 PM 07/16/13 09:46 PM
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bschargerse master B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA	Hey Steve, I just put up a pole building in my yard so I can drag my Charger home. We have an extra bedroom... Last edited by bschargerse; 07/16/13 09:47 PM. Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger "The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: bschargerse] #1209410 07/29/13 02:54 PM 07/29/13 02:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! Sorry updates have been not around, i have been very busy with carlisle and some other stuff that has been going on. Ill post up some stuff shortly... Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 67446DART] #1209411 08/01/13 02:56 AM 08/01/13 02:56 AM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	That's good work

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: BulletBob] #1209412 10/23/13 08:57 AM 10/23/13 08:57 AM
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rocksmopar super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 929 Chicago	Any Progress? Need to see more..... Looking for affordable 72-74 Cuda parts

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: rocksmopar] #1209413 10/31/13 12:18 AM 10/31/13 12:18 AM
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demon1515 enthusiast D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 234 ATL GA	Wow amazing job.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: demon1515] #1209414 11/29/13 02:33 AM 11/29/13 02:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Hey guys, i know its been quite some time since my last post. Progress is still underway, although its been slow. Between moving shops, changes being made on the cars design, and an injury it has set me back quite some time. But now everything has been set in stone and will be working on her! I have a few pics on the computer that i will post, just some of the parts restoration... Reinforced the K frame by welding her up solid... Made up some gussets and boxed in some areas... Made up a skid plate... Had several parts powder coated, the k frame color was going to be silver but is now going to be black (one of the many changes in design i was talking about)... Dash assembly fully restored, still waiting of a few parts and pieces... Steering column restored and ready for reinstall... Ill get ya guys some more pics of the car here shortly, like i said a lot of things have been going on lately so progress was minimal. Now that everything has been sorted out will be back on her. Hoping to have color by the new year... Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209415 01/24/14 06:04 PM 01/24/14 06:04 PM
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haddixj enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 240 Shingle Springs Ca	just read through the whole project, looks great. I am curious how you go about making a new patch panel. Do you use a hammer and dolley for most of the odd shapes or a brake? How do you get the holes in the panels so nice? body saw and grinder to clean them up? 70 duster 25.1E,73 barracuda, 70 gran coupe, 71 cuda

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: haddixj] #1209416 02/08/14 07:38 PM 02/08/14 07:38 PM
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69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Looks great!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 69Cuda340S] #1209417 05/04/14 01:47 PM 05/04/14 01:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Hey guys! Sorry for the lack of posting. A lot of things changed on what we were doing to the car. We decided to go back to factory heat, factory 4 speed, along with some other changes in the car. But anyways I have two pictures with more to follow. Before we painted the car we mocked up the motor, clearance was in issue on the pass shock tower so it had to be modified... Here's a pic right after i painted the car. Many more pics to follow... We are planning to finish this car for Carlisle this year. It will be in my booth and you guys can check it out in person! Steve

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209418 05/05/14 04:17 AM 05/05/14 04:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee Richard Cranium
new bee Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	There may not be a lot of original metal left on this Challenger, but your post makes a perfect case for restoring these cars. Had it been scrapped or parted, there would be one less Challenger out there. Nice work! 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209419 05/06/14 08:17 AM 05/06/14 08:17 AM
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patcharger1973 member P Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 8 nova scotia	Been waiting to see how your progress was going. It astounds me the quality of work you have done in your own back yard shop and at your age. This thread inspired me to tear into my 73 charger a little deeper and when I did I found much of the same issues, unfortunately repop parts aren't as available so I've been fabricating and hitting yards and have managed to modify some challenger parts. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next update!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: patcharger1973] #1209420 05/09/14 09:06 PM 05/09/14 09:06 PM
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1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	Great work! Did you try to duplicate any factory welds for appearance? No biggie, just wondering...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1209421 05/10/14 12:39 AM 05/10/14 12:39 AM
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patcharger1973 member P Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 8 nova scotia	From what I can tell Steve tried to mimic the factory welds, I am trying to but as repop isn't avalible for basicaly the entire front of the car I can only do so much where many parts are made from scratch

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: patcharger1973] #1209422 05/14/14 08:25 PM 05/14/14 08:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! As far as duplicating spot welds we did not decide to do so. It looks cleaner without them and quite frankly considing almost every weld was drilled out we would be duplicating for very long time. Been cutting and buffing pics soon

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209423 05/15/14 12:20 AM 05/15/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,125 Hunt Valley, Maryland 1fastrunner top fuel
1fastrunner top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,125 Hunt Valley, Maryland	Can't wait to see it Steve, my car could use some of your love.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 1fastrunner] #1209424 05/17/14 10:17 PM 05/17/14 10:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	Looks really great so far! 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209425 05/18/14 04:05 AM 05/18/14 04:05 AM
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fez340 member F Joined: May 2013 Posts: 14 houston BC canada	your work is outstanding! great job. i really enjoyed reading your posts so far

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: fez340] #1209426 05/18/14 08:59 AM 05/18/14 08:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! its getting exciting to put it together now! 50 days Until the car needs to be ready for carlisle! Blacked out the tail panel.. Few pics of the paint... First items to go on...Trunk Hinge and weather strip.. Working on getting her on 4 wheels again. Got he rear in place and the wheels are a perfect fit. The 15x10's are tucked in looks close to factory More pics soon

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209427 05/18/14 02:30 PM 05/18/14 02:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 8 nova scotia P patcharger1973 member
patcharger1973 member P Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 8 nova scotia	Looks awesome Steve! I'm still awestruck at how you turned such a rotten heap into such a beautiful car, hope I can make my 73 charger look the same one day! Keep up the good work and keep the posts coming, always look forward to seeing your updates! Last edited by patcharger1973; 05/18/14 08:23 PM.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: patcharger1973] #1209428 05/19/14 08:15 PM 05/19/14 08:15 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa clonedshaker+6 enthusiast
clonedshaker+6 enthusiast Joined: May 2012 Posts: 223 Oreland Pa	car looks awesome, cant wait until mine has paint on it and I don't know if you are going to or already done but the black out behind the grille on the rad support if left green it will stick out like a sore thumb 71 challenger 440 sixpack shaker CLONE (71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present) 03 mustang Mach 1 (daily driver) 11.35 @ 121.5 4 SPEED on F60-15s w/ 6/32 tread

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: clonedshaker+6] #1209429 05/20/14 09:37 AM 05/20/14 09:37 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Brian I wasnt planning on doing the front blackout. This car is over restored and i dont think the oe blackout will look good. I guess we will see once its together, maybe it will change... 48 days till deadline Front suspension parts are all refinished and need put together... Trunk lid and spoiler on, just need to blackout the trim before installing... Working on the rear brakes, had some clearance issues with the studs so had to fix and check clearances... Back to it

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209430 05/20/14 12:06 PM 05/20/14 12:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,567 Ky J jt4406 pro stock
jt4406 pro stock J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,567 Ky	The car looks GREAT!! I can relate to the work required to get to the level you have your car. An FYI for you, if you haven't gotten to it yet, you will have to clearance your rear valance if you have offset rear spring hangers (it appears from the pics that you have the same as I put on my car, Dr. Diff's b body rear into e body kit??) If so, here's a pic of what I did.... jess 8149938-valanceclearanced.jpg (198 downloads) Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jt4406] #1209431 05/20/14 11:36 PM 05/20/14 11:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 76 Iowa J JS23M51 member
JS23M51 member J Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 76 Iowa	Hey Steve its Greg. Its been a while, good to see your back posting pics of your progress on this one. Very impressed with your work and dedication to building a car all the way from beginning to end. Sure hope you can find some time to work on some of your own projects soon. That's what will have me on the edge of my seat, literally. Rock on !!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: JS23M51] #1209432 05/25/14 12:28 PM 05/25/14 12:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks i already checked the valance and it fits fine. Greg, im excited to start on your car too! 43 Days Till Deadline Things are coming along, missing some parts so going a little out of order... Rear end finished, brakes bled... Had more than enough helpers to put the motor in Thats all for now

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209433 05/31/14 04:15 PM 05/31/14 04:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA B bschargerse master
bschargerse master B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA	Steve, That looks great! Looking forward to Carlisle! Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger "The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: bschargerse] #1209434 06/11/14 08:10 PM 06/11/14 08:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks Brian! We only have 26 days until she needs loaded up for carlisle!!! We have had some parts come in damaged or not at all holding us up from doing things in a normal fashion. But we should be getting those items in shortly. Ran The headers then exhaust boy was that a nightmare with the 3" pipes... Heater box before and after... Inside prepped for dash... Thats all for now folks!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209435 06/13/14 04:30 PM 06/13/14 04:30 PM
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68KillerBee master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri	I know you say it will be in your booth, no chance of getting it judged?? My parents will be up there, so I'll send my dad searching for you and the car. Hopefully I make it to the nationals, will it be there? Keep up the awesome work. Very promising career ahead of you if you go that route. edit: you could really entering it into the young guns section (if that section is still alive even). hah. if not that, what car/cars will you be planning on having at the nationals? Last edited by 68KillerBee; 06/13/14 04:32 PM.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68KillerBee] #1209436 06/15/14 02:05 AM 06/15/14 02:05 AM
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1Fryedfish mopar Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 439 Harrisburg Pa	Quote: I know you say it will be in your booth, no chance of getting it judged?? My parents will be up there, so I'll send my dad searching for you and the car. Hopefully I make it to the nationals, will it be there? Keep up the awesome work. Very promising career ahead of you if you go that route. edit: you could really entering it into the young guns section (if that section is still alive even). hah. if not that, what car/cars will you be planning on having at the nationals? The car is going to be at the swap spot a few rows down for building T. you want a buddy pass to come to Carlisle? We have a few empty campspots...haha Dave

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209437 06/24/14 11:41 PM 06/24/14 11:41 PM
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HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Devin, I wont cheat, it will be in the standard judged class. 13 Days till It needs completed... Got some headway done... This is screaming... put me on! Oh and did i mention...its running for the first time in a few decades Pretty much a community event around here Link to Challenger Running

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209438 06/26/14 12:07 AM 06/26/14 12:07 AM
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aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	That is looking amazing! really nice work! with the glass going in and a headliner it must be starting to feel like a car again! 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209439 06/26/14 12:21 AM 06/26/14 12:21 AM
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sogtx master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,180 upstate western ny	Looks sweet ! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2TVoO...0429-MOTION.gif

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209440 06/26/14 09:01 AM 06/26/14 09:01 AM
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wally426ci master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	Looks and sounds amazing. I am excited to see it at the show and dream about you guys going over mine.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: wally426ci] #1209441 06/26/14 09:36 AM 06/26/14 09:36 AM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,828 Houston, Tx	Wow !!! That is going to be SWEET !!!!! Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209442 06/30/14 06:44 PM 06/30/14 06:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA HemiChallenger OP master
HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! Things are coming along pretty well! We have 7 Days until she has to be loaded for carlisle! Feel free to stop by and check the car out, it will be located in swap spots H/I 126-128 , right next to building T! Back to thrashing

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209443 07/01/14 10:21 AM 07/01/14 10:21 AM
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mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	This thing just keeps looking better! Matt

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: mattsmopars] #1209444 07/04/14 03:01 PM 07/04/14 03:01 PM
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NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	Glad to see it getting finished! Looks like you'll make your deadline, congrats! Quite a transformation going from page one to page 5. You do incredible work! 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: NV69B7RR] #1209445 07/08/14 07:48 PM 07/08/14 07:48 PM
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HemiChallenger OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,000 Millersville, PA	Thanks guys! Not much of an update but be sure to stop by and see it in person at carlisle. Swap spots H/I 126-128 right next to building T... Hope to see you guys there!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209446 07/14/14 04:35 PM 07/14/14 04:35 PM
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69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Wow that car looks great!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 69Cuda340S] #1209447 07/14/14 08:17 PM 07/14/14 08:17 PM
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1970Dart3406 enthusiast Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 370 Powell, Ohio ( Originally Pitt...	Car looked awesome in person at Carlisle this past weekend! Great job!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 1970Dart3406] #1209448 07/14/14 11:19 PM 07/14/14 11:19 PM
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EK2Runner member E Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 98 Md	Steve , Good Meeting you this weekend . That car lived up to expectations , if not better . Get that MSD box ? Mike It's a Mopar thing , If you have to ask you wouldn't understand

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: EK2Runner] #1209449 08/06/14 09:12 PM 08/06/14 09:12 PM
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renegade0131 member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 15 N.E. Ohio	Looking forward to seeing the car in Columbus this weekend!!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: renegade0131] #1209450 08/09/14 02:26 PM 08/09/14 02:26 PM
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patcharger1973 member P Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 8 nova scotia	That car came out incredible Steve, what's the next project going to be?

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