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Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: STEFF] #1205782
05/01/12 12:06 PM
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389", more comp, big cam, fixed 6.1 heads.....should be fun!




Offset ground or scat crank ?




Offset ground 6.1 crank....3.68 stroke x 4.100 bore




Nice, is it sleeved? 4.080 has made most people nervous....


My Build thread: Let the hemi swap begin!

1968 wanna be pro touring whatchamacallit with some fancy stuff and a new roof skin.
Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: AlexP] #1205783
05/01/12 01:01 PM
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Smyrna, South Carolina
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Nope...6.4 block

Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: STEFF] #1205784
09/15/12 04:53 PM
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I've got a bit of a stupid question....has anybody used a motor plate on new Hemi yet? It seems like it would be easier to mount that way. I'm no expert, I just read a lot of things when I get bored.




Here's Mine....






Going to ressurect this since I have been thinking about this again...Steff, excuse my ignorance even looking at your pic, but what accessories are you running, if at all? I like the idea of a motorplate if they are being made instead of mounts, but am curious about removing accessories as well like A/C and power steering, neither of which I want

Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: mshred] #1205785
05/29/13 03:34 PM
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I'm putting a truck 3g in my Challenger. Its in and about ready to start, but I'm having header clearance issues. I've got TTI headers and Polylock mounts. My headers are pointing downwards too much under the car significantly reducing my clearance.

I'm also running a A500 trans, which is what I'm thinking is causing the motor to be tilted back too far pointing the headers downward.

I've had to do a little pounding to get clearance in a couple of spots, but it tucks up in the tunnel pretty good and doesn't appear to hang low at all. I'm about ready to drop the trans again and pound the crap out of the tunnel to get it up in there more. But before I go to all that trouble, I wanted to know if you guys are having the same issue with headers pointing downward at the outlet?

I think the 5.7 just looks like its leaning back toward the firewall more than stock smallblock/bigblocks in general, from all the pics I've seen.

Anyone have a similar header clearance problem?


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Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: mshred] #1205786
05/29/13 03:58 PM
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I've got a bit of a stupid question....has anybody used a motor plate on new Hemi yet? It seems like it would be easier to mount that way. I'm no expert, I just read a lot of things when I get bored.




Here's Mine....






Going to ressurect this since I have been thinking about this again...Steff, excuse my ignorance even looking at your pic, but what accessories are you running, if at all? I like the idea of a motorplate if they are being made instead of mounts, but am curious about removing accessories as well like A/C and power steering, neither of which I want




Running an Alternator. Kinda' buried under the braided lines in the pic. It's on the pass. side, near k-frame.

I made the motor plate, using a jig saw and drill press. Not hard to do. I did use aluminum tooling plate though, which is finished on both sides. Saved me from having to mill the plate flat for sealing surfaces. I don't have a mill yet.

New motor also has my oil pump mounted to it. I'll post a pic of the new plate and motor later.

Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: PlumCrazyChris] #1205787
06/24/13 04:35 PM
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Bump, anyone having header clearance problems with their 3G Hemi swap?


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I'm putting a truck 3g in my Challenger. Its in and about ready to start, but I'm having header clearance issues. I've got TTI headers and Polylock mounts. My headers are pointing downwards too much under the car significantly reducing my clearance.

I'm also running a A500 trans, which is what I'm thinking is causing the motor to be tilted back too far pointing the headers downward.

I've had to do a little pounding to get clearance in a couple of spots, but it tucks up in the tunnel pretty good and doesn't appear to hang low at all. I'm about ready to drop the trans again and pound the crap out of the tunnel to get it up in there more. But before I go to all that trouble, I wanted to know if you guys are having the same issue with headers pointing downward at the outlet?

I think the 5.7 just looks like its leaning back toward the firewall more than stock smallblock/bigblocks in general, from all the pics I've seen.

Anyone have a similar header clearance problem?




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70 Challenger
www.mopar.org
Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: PlumCrazyChris] #1205788
06/24/13 06:53 PM
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Bump, anyone having header clearance problems with their 3G Hemi swap?


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I'm putting a truck 3g in my Challenger. Its in and about ready to start, but I'm having header clearance issues. I've got TTI headers and Polylock mounts. My headers are pointing downwards too much under the car significantly reducing my clearance.

I'm also running a A500 trans, which is what I'm thinking is causing the motor to be tilted back too far pointing the headers downward.

I've had to do a little pounding to get clearance in a couple of spots, but it tucks up in the tunnel pretty good and doesn't appear to hang low at all. I'm about ready to drop the trans again and pound the crap out of the tunnel to get it up in there more. But before I go to all that trouble, I wanted to know if you guys are having the same issue with headers pointing downward at the outlet?

I think the 5.7 just looks like its leaning back toward the firewall more than stock smallblock/bigblocks in general, from all the pics I've seen.

Anyone have a similar header clearance problem?







I can't comment on header clearance (as I welded my own), but I can say my motor is tilted back more than I'd like. I've also got a tko600 Keisler kit, though.

What do your angles look like? I understand 1.0-1.5* is ideal, .5* is min, 2.0* is max for racing according to Mark Williams, and 3.0* is max according to Spicer. I'm thinking my front u joint is around 2.5* operating angle.


-'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar
-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: mshred] #1205789
06/27/13 08:45 AM
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This is mine - 6.1 crate into an Aussie A body - carb induction.

MSD Harness 88864 $185
MSD 6013 spark controller $475
Mounts - TTI - MM57A, $140 (These are rubbish btw and require significant re-working)
MP flex plate adapter - P5153753 $85
Jeep Alternator,AL6475X, Alternator 4896805AC or Denso 11113 $225 (Rebuilt)
Sump - MIL31000, $205.00
Pick up - MIL18331 $75.95
Dipstick and Tube - MIL 22064 $58.95
Oil plate Adapter - MIL 21566 $34.95
Oil Pan bolts - MIL-85025 $11.95
Oil Pick up stud - 6506333-AA $2.50
Oil Stud Nut - # 6502756 $1.90
Bearing Cap Bolt - 06506272AA $3.70
Oil filter block off TTI - PN 0200-FBP $68.00
Intake gasket $49.00
Indy Modman Manifold $490
Electric Fans $300
Champion Radiator - $240
St & Perf P/Steer delete pulley- $188
Street and performance Headers $673
Plugs LZTR5AIX-13 $101
Belt tensioner 4861277AD - $30
Dayco Tensioner Bolt- $7.95
Dayco tensioner - $24.00
Idler Pulley - $27
Idler pulley bolt - $2
Gates Hoses 25526 (13) 25527 (15) - $30
Lokar Trans dipstick - $55
Lokar Acc cable - $64
PSI Valve springs - $300 (Check the LX forums why these need changing)



67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: Uhcoog1] #1205790
06/27/13 07:01 PM
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I'll measure the angle on the trans output shaft, it looks ok, but the headers are really low for TTIs, I'm shocked and almost think I have a bad set.

Here's a shot of my motor, its kind of an old pic, but it doesn't look any more tilted then the other ones I've seen. I'll have to get a pic of the headers and put them on here for comparison.

What do you think?

7757329-Motorsmall.jpg (141 downloads)
Re: New Hemi Builds and Swap Thread [Re: PlumCrazyChris] #1205791
06/28/13 06:17 AM
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The TTI adapter mounts with A body biscuit mounts raise the front of the motor a significant amount.

If the bell housing flange is pushed up against the firewall, you have this problem.

We took 12mm out of the passenger side adapter - this both dropped and centered the motor.

I know for a fact others have had the same issue in US Mopars.

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