Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar?

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Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? #1205361
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I know a man that has made & marketed adjustable rear sway bars for Mustangs & Lotus' for many years & he's interested in developing new products...

There has been discussion about the available rear bars being to stiff even when using the 1.125 front bar.. With an adjustable rear you can tune the handling to your preference...

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Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1205362 03/28/12 09:34 PM 03/28/12 09:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Hellwig and Hotchkis are both already adjustable. If he made a torsion sway bar that a guy could change to different size bars and reuse the existing hardware, now that would be cool. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1205363 03/30/12 10:44 AM 03/30/12 10:44 AM
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TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,394 Pikes Peak Country	I think Hotchkis and Hellwig have demonstrated there is a market for said bar, so entry into the segment means he will have to differentiate himself in some way, be it pricing, marketing, performance, documentation of performance, or some other means.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: TC@HP2] #1205364 03/30/12 01:23 PM 03/30/12 01:23 PM
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moparAL pro stock M Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,212	I think it would be very interesting if 1. It would be a frame mount, frame hung design, like a original factory Mopar, (unlike Hotchkis and Hellwig). But be adjustable as well! That I would buy! 2. Be available soon, come to the marketplace quickly, not take forever to be available. Tired of companies sending up these trial balloons and slowly or never coming out with there product! Last edited by moparAL; 03/30/12 08:16 PM.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: moparAL] #1205365 03/30/12 05:28 PM 03/30/12 05:28 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	Firm Feel already has a frame mount rear bar. They can sell it as an adjustable model too if you want.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: AndyF] #1205366 03/30/12 06:48 PM 03/30/12 06:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	To no one particular, do both sides of an adjustable rear sway bar need to set the same, and what are the downsides if not? Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: jcc] #1205367 03/31/12 10:52 AM 03/31/12 10:52 AM
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TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,394 Pikes Peak Country	So there you go, it needs to be a frame hung, factory style bar with adjustable ends that sells for less the $350 and be advertised in most mopar mags. Quote: To no one particular, do both sides of an adjustable rear sway bar need to set the same, and what are the downsides if not? If you want consistent, predicatable performance in both left and right turns, yes, they should both be the same. I experimented with that approach on the front bar on an oval track car that always turned left. It produced a twitchy and somewhat unpredicatable reacting suspension that would reach a point of over/understeer much more rapidly than having the bar set neuteral on both sides. FWIW, I also experimented with two stacked front sway bars (most oval track stock type classes don't allow rear sway bars). It produced too much front roll couple for my combination and since this was back in the days before the big bar/soft spring combos were popular, I didn't understand the implications of shock valving on such a combination to make it work. Sure had the tech guys scratching their heads though. I eventually ditched them and went with a single large bar.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: TC@HP2] #1205368 03/31/12 12:54 PM 03/31/12 12:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: If you want consistent, predicatable performance in both left and right turns, yes, they should both be the same. I experimented with that approach on the front bar on an oval track car that always turned left. It produced a twitchy and somewhat unpredicatable reacting suspension that would reach a point of over/understeer much more rapidly than having the bar set neuteral on both sides. The point of my question was by setting a sway bar un equal, is that an additional tuning option, doesn't sound like it. And L should have excluded circle track left turn only cars in my first question. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: jcc] #1205369 03/31/12 01:33 PM 03/31/12 01:33 PM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	You could use it as a weight jack if you were scaling the car with driver. Adjustable end links could be useful as a tuning tool in that respect. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Any interest in an adjustable rear swaybar? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1205370 04/09/12 03:06 PM 04/09/12 03:06 PM
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moparAL pro stock M Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,212	This was a very interesting question, and the BEST DESIGN compared to any currently available rear sway-bars out there, BUT MARK MY WORDS, they won't come out with a adjustable, frame hung, rear sway-bar! Sorry, MOST of these companies are SLOW AS MOLASSES!!!

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