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Will I damage anything??? #1199477 03/19/12 12:24 PM 03/19/12 12:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California M moparbroz OP enthusiast
moparbroz OP enthusiast M Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California	I want to re-install my rear-end so I can roll my car around. I have everything but the center section (Have 489 case, no guts). Will I damage my axles with out the chunk if I roll her around? Hebrews 11:1

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: moparbroz] #1199478 03/19/12 12:31 PM 03/19/12 12:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,427 Dandridge TN D Dabee master
Dabee master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,427 Dandridge TN	I don�t think I would do it. What�s going to support and keep the inside end of the axle centered?

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: moparbroz] #1199479 03/19/12 12:38 PM 03/19/12 12:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	You could put a lenth of 2" steel tubing inside the rear housing where you can slide the axles in to support them. I think you'll be alright with that, but you could also use some wood wedges to secure/center the tubing into the empty bearingcaps. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: Dabee] #1199480 03/19/12 12:38 PM 03/19/12 12:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,427 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,427 It's a dry heat	get a section of plastic pvc pipe and slide it over the axles in the center. and as long as your not running down the road at 30 mph it'll be fine plan on replacing the bearings regardless

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: gtx6970] #1199481 03/19/12 12:44 PM 03/19/12 12:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: plan on replacing the bearings regardless As a general rule or from the axles supported w PCV pipe & being moved around live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: gtx6970] #1199482 03/19/12 12:47 PM 03/19/12 12:47 PM
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moparbroz OP enthusiast M Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California	Awsome idea's. Just rolling her around to my driveway and back into the garage. .001 MPH. Thanks guys!! Quote: get a section of plastic pvc pipe and slide it over the axles in the center. and as long as your not running down the road at 30 mph it'll be fine plan on replacing the bearings regardless Hebrews 11:1

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: RapidRobert] #1199483 03/19/12 01:20 PM 03/19/12 01:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,427 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,427 It's a dry heat	Quote: Quote: plan on replacing the bearings regardless As a general rule or from the axles supported w PCV pipe & being moved around I would just as a general rule if moving it around with no lube and/or support on the bearings themselves my idea is just to keep the axles from flopping around and should not be used to move the car any farther or faster than you can by hand Last edited by gtx6970; 03/19/12 01:31 PM.

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: gtx6970] #1199484 03/19/12 01:27 PM 03/19/12 01:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Something to consider, the pipe idea is ok if your running Green bearings but the OE tapered bearings need a spacer in the middle to force the axle out so the bearing cone seats in the race... At the very least you'll destroy the seals running it with just a pipe... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1199485 03/19/12 02:50 PM 03/19/12 02:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	There will be some weirdness if still using stock adjustables.

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1199486 03/20/12 02:17 AM 03/20/12 02:17 AM
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moparbroz OP enthusiast M Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 339 California	10-4. I have a set of green bearings just purchased from Dr. Diff and have not yet had them pressed on. Thanks much!! Quote: Something to consider, the pipe idea is ok if your running Green bearings but the OE tapered bearings need a spacer in the middle to force the axle out so the bearing cone seats in the race... At the very least you'll destroy the seals running it with just a pipe... Hebrews 11:1

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1199487 03/20/12 11:32 AM 03/20/12 11:32 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	Quote: Something to consider, the pipe idea is ok if your running Green bearings but the OE tapered bearings need a spacer in the middle to force the axle out so the bearing cone seats in the race... At the very least you'll destroy the seals running it with just a pipe... This is incorrect. the weight of the vehicle forces the axles out. Its a glorified front wheel bearing setup. The pipe deal is fine.

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: RemCharger] #1199488 03/20/12 12:34 PM 03/20/12 12:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Quote: Something to consider, the pipe idea is ok if your running Green bearings but the OE tapered bearings need a spacer in the middle to force the axle out so the bearing cone seats in the race... At the very least you'll destroy the seals running it with just a pipe... This is incorrect. the weight of the vehicle forces the axles out. Its a glorified front wheel bearing setup. The pipe deal is fine. You might want to take another look at the design of Mopar axle bearings before posting that comment... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1199489 03/20/12 09:55 PM 03/20/12 09:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Something to consider, the pipe idea is ok if your running Green bearings but the OE tapered bearings need a spacer in the middle to force the axle out so the bearing cone seats in the race... At the very least you'll destroy the seals running it with just a pipe... This is incorrect. the weight of the vehicle forces the axles out. Its a glorified front wheel bearing setup. The pipe deal is fine. You might want to take another look at the design of Mopar axle bearings before posting that comment... I stand corrected my apologies. But with the pipe in there I can't see it damaging anything, the bearing can only go in so far....? As far as mopar bearings, I was thinking about the grand cherokees.

Re: Will I damage anything??? [Re: RemCharger] #1199490 03/21/12 12:51 AM 03/21/12 12:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: But with the pipe in there I can't see it damaging anything, the bearing can only go in so far....? As far as mopar bearings, I was thinking about the grand cherokees. Without some sort of solid spacer to push the axles out the taper of the bearing tends to push the axle in.. The first the that tries to stop the inward movement is the outer axle seal meeting the larger step on the axle so that grease seal gets destroyed.. It can't be serviced without removing the bearing so now the bearing is toast... Next thing to try stopping the axle moving inward will be the axle flange meeting the axle retainer... If your pushing the car the axle flange will grind away at the retainer.... Honestly probably wouldn't do allot of damage but why chance it.... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

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