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Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? #1198896 03/18/12 02:46 PM 03/18/12 02:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD B bordin34 OP super stock
bordin34 OP super stock B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD	I am trying to install my engine while the trans is still in the car but I cant get the engine to line up with the torque converter. Are there any tricks to doing this? The car is a 73 Charger, 440, 727. Thanks

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: bordin34] #1198897 03/18/12 02:49 PM 03/18/12 02:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	get the engine to mate with the trans..the converter will line up then.. Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: 70AARcuda] #1198898 03/18/12 02:57 PM 03/18/12 02:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,728 ST clair shores MI M moretoys top fuel
moretoys top fuel M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,728 ST clair shores MI	make sure torque conv is all the way in,inside the trans.just line up the 2 dowl pins and mate the trans and engine, then the torque conv. The torque convertor will only bolt up 1 way.so if it's off the first time-rotate conv to another hole and try it.1 in 4 chance.The torque convertor will sit farther in the trans than needed.When engine-trans are bolted together the conv will come towards the engine some.maybe 1/4 inch?.If engine hits torque conv before engine-trans seat,then the conv is not in all the way.Don't forget to lock tight the torque convertor bolts.Usually need to jack the trans up to help line up- then get the mounts adjusted.Sometimes leaving the motor mount brackets a little loose at the engine will give you some more wiggle room.if you're doing headers,those will need to be in place with the engine going in.Most (not all) will not go in very easy will engine trans in place. Last edited by moretoys; 03/18/12 03:02 PM.

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: moretoys] #1198899 03/18/12 04:27 PM 03/18/12 04:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD B bordin34 OP super stock
bordin34 OP super stock B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD	I think the converter is all the way back but the snout of the converter seems to hit the flex plate before the engine is back far enough to sit in the mounts. It's a 73 so it uses spool mounts.

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: bordin34] #1198900 03/18/12 04:29 PM 03/18/12 04:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	gotta play with the angles of the back of the motor and trans....use a floor jack under the trans to change its pitch.. sometimes it is a PIA with spool mounts. Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: 70AARcuda] #1198901 03/18/12 05:11 PM 03/18/12 05:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	might see if you can loosen the trans mount so you can move the trans back a bit live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: RapidRobert] #1198902 03/18/12 05:54 PM 03/18/12 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas	Converter should be at least an inch behind the bell housing edge.

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: bordin34] #1198903 03/18/12 06:04 PM 03/18/12 06:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Quote: I think the converter is all the way back but the snout of the converter seems to hit the flex plate Using one hand placed in the middle of the converter spin it as you force it rearward into the bell housing, sounds like you don't have it fully seated rearward for engine installation/alignment to the transmission

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: stumpy] #1198904 03/18/12 07:14 PM 03/18/12 07:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Converter should be at least an inch behind the bell housing edge. It seems to me that if you use a straight edge and measure to the top of the mounting lugs it is 3/4 to one inch, depening on which type, stock or race, and brand converters you using Jack the front of the trans up so it is against the floor boards, that should help get the converter hub aligned into the crankshaft snout that the hub fits into Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1198905 03/18/12 07:25 PM 03/18/12 07:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD B bordin34 OP super stock
bordin34 OP super stock B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD	Thanks, I finally got it in. It just took a lot of time lining everything up. The converter was already all the way back. My problem was getting all the angles right compounded by spool mounts, headers, and power steering.

Re: Installing Engine While Trans is Still in Car? [Re: bordin34] #1198906 03/18/12 08:52 PM 03/18/12 08:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	The next one you do will be way easier for you. Even the fords with the silly torque converter studs to line up, get easier with experience.

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