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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: 383man]
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03/04/12 10:08 AM
03/04/12 10:08 AM
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N.E. Ohio
6bblFLASH
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The small-block intake does`nt flow well,its not the carbs. its the manifold. The RB one is pretty good IMO. 
70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ!
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: lewtot184]
#1190063
03/04/12 01:05 PM
03/04/12 01:05 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Brookeville, Md
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Six packs are expensive already- but then to be easily tunable you have to pony up additonal $$ for the metering blocks with replacable screw in jets. I ran the Edelbrock CH-28 with 2 500cfm Edelbrock carbs on my Challengers. The entire setup was about $1000 less than the 6 pack. I plan on an Offenhauser 2x4 on my 360. Mutliple under hood carbs do not have the lead in performance but look COOL AND ERA CORRECT!!  
you don't have to buy a bunch of junk or gadjets to make a 6-pak work. usually thats the worst thing a guy can do.
mine came straight out of the box and onto the car. Only thing I did was up the jetting, up the squirtters and went w/ purple outboard springs. When I 1st did it everybody (here) told me I was going to need this billet piece and drill this out and I'd need to upgrade this. Glad I didn't listen.
they seem to work just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoCaHhiqShI
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/04/12 01:54 PM
03/04/12 01:54 PM
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Answering the call of the wild
ThermoQuad
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Answering the call of the wild
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A properly tuned small block six pak will eat your 4 bbl whatever. Go git yer [sic] 4 bbl whatever and get ready to be thrashed and humiliated. The problem is reading and comprehension when it comes to the proper tuning of a six pak. How much more basic does the tuning guide have be written to get proper results? Well first the guide would have to be read...Thermoquads have the same problem. Lack of patience is the biggest factor. A properly tuned six pak has a secondary hit that no 4 bbl can beat. If you want to fight with a six pak you had better bring a thermoquad and my money is still on the six pak. Btw a thermoquad and a six pak have small primaries and HUGE secondaries...go figure As far as flow...you can port and massage the passageways these days to improve flow. You will have to find some better arguments to override real world results 
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: ThermoQuad]
#1190065
03/04/12 03:17 PM
03/04/12 03:17 PM
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Joplin, MO USA
Robbins
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I need to get back on tuning mine, I thought that I had it, but now my center carb isn't acting right. I can't adjust idle circuit. The outer's I can.
I like this post. Not to steal this post, but has anybody ran the newer Indy Cylinder Heads intake on the small block..........is it better than the stock one as far as six pack stuff goes for SB's?
I have to agree that the A-body has been the cheaper Mopar, now a-days the early A is the only cheap one. That being said I love darn near all mopar cars, trucks from the 30's to the newer stuff.
Like shorty, I have some 80's trucks, an 80's RC too and really like them.
Moparlee
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: Robbins]
#1190066
03/04/12 03:42 PM
03/04/12 03:42 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Spokane Washington
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Bench racing "mine vs yours" will lead to nothing more than into a never ending no winner arguement. Regardless of ones tuning abilities the bottom line is that the results of a head to head comparison between a good 4 barrel/intake combo vs. a well tuned Six Pack combo will vary with nearly every engine/car combo, both have their merits. It's safe to say that any advantage will be marginally small in either direction (speaking street/pump gas setups here) it's all about the fuel requirements of any particular engine and what one is willing to spend (time/money) experimenting trying to ring out every last HP possible from their particular combo.
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#1190067
03/05/12 12:23 PM
03/05/12 12:23 PM
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Posts: 15,134
Kelowna, B.C. Canada
DPelletier
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Kelowna, B.C. Canada
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Regardless of ones tuning abilities the bottom line is that the results of a head to head comparison between a good 4 barrel/intake combo vs. a well tuned Six Pack combo will vary with nearly every engine/car combo, both have their merits.
It's safe to say that any advantage will be marginally small in either direction (speaking street/pump gas setups here)
True, BUT you are missing one important pce of the puzzle that people often seem to forget in all these 6 pack "discussions"; The 4bbls and manifolds AREN'T stock in these comparisons.
Now, I'm not a small block guy and perhaps the factory 340 4bbl intake and carb are better pces than those used on a 440, but as far as the big block stuff goes, the 6 pack performs at the very top with the best of any AFTERMARKET 4bbl setups on a 450hbp street motor. It just works........I'd LOVE to have had a stock 440hp 4bbl carb and intake setup tested on that Hot Rod manifold test but oh well.
In any case, I agree with your comments but the 6 pack setup deserves all the credit it gets for a STOCK induction setup IMO. Hard to beat and the only real downside is cost.
Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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