Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
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03/02/12 11:48 PM
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Have you ever noticed that in our Mopar street/strip and all out type race cars never seem to run the 6pk setup on the smallblocks ? I mean I see alot of people running the bigblock 6 pk setups but it seems that other then a stock type restoration you just dont see many using the 6pk on the smallblocks. I know they run good on the bigblocks so I just got to wondering why the 6pk just never seems to be used much on the smallblocks. I wonder why ??? Ron
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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03/03/12 12:25 AM
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Simple if you ask me, most small block cars you see are A-bodies, and A-body guys are also low budget guys (same goes for many SB powered B-body owners for that matter), a good running Six Pack setup will run you in the range of $1,500-$2,500.00 all in, and that's as much as many of those guys have in thier entire car.
I resemble that remark......almost. Yes, it's very much about the low budget, plus it's less necessary on small block cars.
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: Kern Dog]
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03/03/12 02:25 AM
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From what I have seen and read, the Six Pack is more about street image and visual appeal than actual performance. A well tuned 4 barrel is hard to beat.
Hmmmmmm......my 410 cid stroked 340/6, 443 RWHP Challenger T/A has put the hurt on many BBlk 4bbl and BBlk multi carbed cars,.....quite a few SB cars that are heavy hitters out there, seen a few fierce SB A andd E bodies over the years turn some serious times,....but it does take some coin to build a serious SB engine, hence the ease of just dropping in a BBlk for less $$$$$$
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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03/03/12 02:54 AM
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^^^Do you go to the Monterey Historics and camp at the top of the hill in the terrace camp ground? Travis..
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: phantomx]
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03/03/12 03:04 AM
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Im surprised as some of the replies and man are some out of the loop when it comes to six packs and the cars they get put in.... Two nights ago I moved my charger 500 out in the 12 degree temps and 85 mph winds to get my f body in out of the weather. It comes down to a matter of choice not money, ive far less in my hemi car then my f body car..by probably 3x. Remember moparts is just a small spec of the real mopar world....ive 2 small block six pack stroker cars, working on a 3rd. F duster, I know its just your opinion, but its been proven a six pack will run equal or harder then a single 4 carb setup. Its easy to dump alot of money in small block six packs, then add on the stroker aspect, nitrous builds, race blocks....costly trans and dana-s,alterktions, actually most I know, its not about money its about the choice. Im 8-0 on the streets vs some impressive cars in the past 3 years, one a known A-12 car. If anything it comes down to imo the lack of intakes but the oem works well modified and the mod man rocks.... Most dont take notice to a small block six pack until they get spanked by one
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
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03/03/12 03:23 AM
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Scott, you have a great grasp on the A body world and I had to chuckle a bit when you more or less say a body people are cheap, almost make it sound wrong to put a six pack on a lesser car Here again I really think if the A body cars and even f body cars were not getting by with small blocks and doing well, there would be more BB cars like in the past. Not needed now with strokers. Now if I had a wedge B body, id have a BB stroker six pack due to the weight. But at 3250lbs, some have no need for a BB or such. So are we fools for using nos X blocks, the only seasoned race block out of the small block group, about 3k from box to stand ready to assemble? I know you have a $$$$340 resto block in your 426 Scott, what is the difference in that vs spending min 2k for an oem type six pack as a starting point in an a-body or any other body???? A simple choice maybe... Its ironic in a way as im actually just getting ready to goto the shed to assemble another set of carbs for the current X block stroker motor.....and I had a thought. I read so many post about both BB and small block people that have issues with there six pack setup....maybe thats part of it, some cant grasp a single carb let alone getting three to work right together.
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
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03/03/12 05:21 AM
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A good breathing 400 plus inch stroker at 7500rpm needs more then 750 cfm, yes its also street driven, thrashed often.
Jeez! You spin that mill THAT high? Us BIG block guys can make power UNDER 6000 rpms.....
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
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03/03/12 10:25 AM
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Bow do I feel like a unwanted redheaded stepchild by reading this post.
I may have been a "low budjet" working guy before my disability and I am proud to say that I do have a 340. This 340 just happens to have a 6 pack bolted on it and also just happens that it is in a lowly 81 stepside shorty and I am proud of it. I worked hard to afford my 6 pack system. I have had numerous A and B body cars in the years that I have owned Mopars. This combination just happens to be the most fun to drive Mopar vehicle that I have built/owned. I will admit that it isnt in the class of a high dollar HEMI, A12 or most E bodys. I am not afraid to take it out for a drive even if it may be caught in a rain or snow storm when those above mentiond cars are locked at home in the garage because the high dollar owners are afraid that they will melt. Call me low buck/low budjet. I will be in my truck with my 340 and my trio of Holleys while you high buck guys are waiting for the sun to shine or to open the door on your fancy show poodle trailer.
I am truckless..
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Re: Why no smallblock 6 packs ?
[Re: 340SHORTY]
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I think another reason that you see more big block six packs than small block six packs is because of people building clones. (Oh how I hate to use the term.) Even if a car isn't built as a full blown clone... Say, more of a hot rod / street machine, it seems that Mopar guys still go for a some-what stock-ish appearance. So you build a car sort of as it "could have been" from the factory. Hence all the B and E body 440 six pack cars that are out there. To the best of my A-body knowledge, no A-bodies came from the FACTORY with a 340 six pack. So my theory (and it's just a theory) is that A-body guys build a /6 or 318 A-body to emulate a 340 A-body and since they didn't come from the factory with a six pack, they get built with a 4 barrel. You might actually find more 340 six pack builds in E-bodies because of guys trying to emulate the AAR and T/A cars. At one time, I had actually considered putting a six pack set up on my 71 Duster 340. But like mentioned, the cost is prohibitive. I have a good running Holley DP on it... So why change it? Plus I actually like the look of that $$$ 71 340 air cleaner that I only paid $ for at the Mopar nats before these cars were really worth anything.
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