making your old car new?
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It's great these days to have all kinds of suspension, engine, trans, etc upgrades to make our old cars behave better. But there is one area where the old cars still fall way short. I would like to be able to drive my car in the rain, or go through an automatic car wash with NO leaks. And how about all those rattles... What kind of tips and tricks do you guys have to make the interior more livable? 
74 Challenger 360 4 speed-work in progress for 9 years
91 Nissan 240sx fastback 5 speed, custom mopar pistol grip shifter, high comp KA24DE, I/H/E, Full Suspension, Coilovers, 16x8 0 offset XXR 002 wheels-Fun DD
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Re: making your old car new?
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It's great these days to have all kinds of suspension, engine, trans, etc upgrades to make our old cars behave better. But there is one area where the old cars still fall way short. I would like to be able to drive my car in the rain, or go through an automatic car wash with NO leaks. And how about all those rattles... What kind of tips and tricks do you guys have to make the interior more livable?
Repo it, I have on several cars, new door seals, window seals and so on, tighten everything up including removing the dash, radio and heater or air conditioning  I've done several complete ground up restorations and the casr drive and sound like brand new afterwards, including the new upholstery and carpet smell  
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: making your old car new?
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does anyone sell a complete kit? and who has the most efficiently priced set? thanks for the info!
74 Challenger 360 4 speed-work in progress for 9 years
91 Nissan 240sx fastback 5 speed, custom mopar pistol grip shifter, high comp KA24DE, I/H/E, Full Suspension, Coilovers, 16x8 0 offset XXR 002 wheels-Fun DD
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Re: making your old car new?
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03/01/12 07:50 PM
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Quiet cost money and time, but it can be well worth it. Modern insulation and sound proofing techniques, fresh seals, tracking down any components that rattle, resonate and knock; it's amazing how much some well spent time and money can acomplish.
How much time and money depends on how quiet do you want it to be. I put less than $500 worth of sound "reducing" materials into my 1970 ebody, plus the seals etc, and it's quieter than a lot of new luxury cars.
There is a limit though. The airflow and it's noisey turbulence around the car are somewhat fixed due to the design. The quieter the interior becomes, the more you hear the wind noise coming from just outside the windows etc.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: making your old car new?
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03/01/12 08:09 PM
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Do you know how much weight the sound deadener added?
74 Challenger 360 4 speed-work in progress for 9 years
91 Nissan 240sx fastback 5 speed, custom mopar pistol grip shifter, high comp KA24DE, I/H/E, Full Suspension, Coilovers, 16x8 0 offset XXR 002 wheels-Fun DD
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Re: making your old car new?
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03/01/12 09:58 PM
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Noise reduction has become VERY important to the OEMs. Look at the new Challenger for example. There are seals between the door and fender! I'm sure that this was an effort to reduce wind noise.
You beat me to it - my 2012 SRT8 Charger has those seals - never saw that before. Near zero wind noise in the car and it has the added benefit of keeping the door hinge area a lot cleaner. I've been thinking about how can i incorporate that into my 70 Charger
1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com
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Re: making your old car new?
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03/01/12 11:35 PM
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I've been thinking about how can i incorporate that into my 70 Charger
I'd suspect that you could get a roll of a similar material and attach it to the back side of the door skin..... 
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Re: making your old car new?
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What kind of tips and tricks do you guys have to make the interior more livable?
In reality, it's a state of mind....
when you go for a nice long cruise on cool spring morn LEAVE THE WIFE AT HOME.
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Re: making your old car new?
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A combo of Dynamat Extreme and "The Insulator" from Aircraft Spruce makes a huge difference. Remember, with Dynamat you don't necessarily have to cover the entire surface to get the panel resonnation to deaden. Using less saves time, weight and $, but still gives you excellent panel dampning.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: making your old car new?
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The stuff I used to replace the factory plastic.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: making your old car new?
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It's not the air filled foil you get at the Home stores, but a foil covered blanket sold for aircraft insulation at Aircraft Spruce called "The Insulator. It's great stuff, easy to work with and works better and cost less than anything I've seen for automotive use.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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