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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: sixpackgut] #1187907
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Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 411.91 flywheel HP and 370.72 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 412.70 flywheel HP and 371.43 rear wheel HP.


i have never seen numbers this close before. i would slide a new cam in




I take that as the car is ET'n all it can for what HP its making .Is that right or wrong ? This a good or bad thing ???


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187908
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hear ya go! take those w-2's off and port them. put a solid flat tappet w-more dur. and lift. bam! there you go. 6.80's or better

Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: tjmarcus1] #1187909
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I appreciate the help guys ,but im not after the obvious .Why would i change the cam just to gain a tenth ? I still have to pull the heads to port them and properly set up the spring height for the new valve springs required.After nearly 200 passes on the motor why would i pull the heads and not rebuild or atleast freshen the lower end as well ? Like i said i know the cam is the bottle neck.Time i pull the heads ,change the cam ,lifters ,and valve springs ,pay for a new valve job ,head gaskets ,pushrods ,intake and exhaust gaskets ,i would proly have a grand in the upgrade .Not really my idea of a cheap gain ,and would be a halfa$$ed (IMO) hop- up.Im after little gains here to make up a tenth ,not a half second...


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187910
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Try a 1.6 intake rocker instead of 1.5


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187911
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Is E85 available in your area? If so I picked up about 2-3 tenths and 4 mph in the 1/4 mile over 110 racing fuel. I got my carb from Eric at www.horsepowerinnovations.com. Same fuel system just swapped carbs and fuel.

Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: KX35] #1187912
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Is E85 available in your area? If so I picked up about 2-3 tenths and 4 mph in the 1/4 mile over 110 racing fuel. I got my carb from Eric at www.horsepowerinnovations.com. Same fuel system just swapped carbs and fuel.




Its not avalible ,but im wishing it was .I never realised there was that kind of a gain with E85 over 110...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...
Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187913
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Been there, done that. A couple of years ago I was running 7.10s and wanted a 6.99 real bad. After trying a lot of different things and spending too much money, I found this out; from where you are at now, in my opinion your 6.99 is in the 60'. Get the car in the high 1.4s and I believe your 6.99 will come along.

I believe a cam change alone will net you more mph, but may not change your 60' and therefore your ET won't change much.

I could pick up 2 mph and not pick up much 60', so my ET didn't change much. Once I started working on my 60' my ET changed with it.

It will probably take a good bit of experimentation to find what will pick up your 60'. Converter, gears, instant center, tires, etc. A lot of different pieces.

Granted, more HP like a bigger cam is a good thing, but I don't think you will get to 6.99 with an increase in power alone.



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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: DaveRS23] #1187914
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There are a lot of great suggestions. On the cheapers side of an upgrade, depending on your ignition system, a rock-steady timing Firecore distributor, Firecore coil, and Firecore50 spark plug wires. Your engine will thank you.


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: sunroofgtx] #1187915
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Nice plug,Gorski!! And yes....The Firecore 50 wires are great!!


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187916
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I may have missed it somewhere, but could you give us a rundown of your suspension setup? A good alignment can help, making sure your brakes don't have any drag, things like that can help you pick up little bits here and there which is what it sounds like you're after.

Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: scamp74] #1187917
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Like already mentioned, I think you have the power to do it....and as already mentioned, it needs to 60 foot better.........

If the car was a 4-speed, what RPM would you launch it at? it sure wouldn't be 3,500.....

Power glide or not, that conveter IS TOO TIGHT to 60 foot to it's optimum, no matter what cam you put in it.......


If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: Big Squeeze] #1187918
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Believe it or not im getting dayight under both front tires on the hit ,but i totally agree that the mid 1.5 60 foots could be better.Im thinking a 4500 convertor should be about right as is ,plus as was mentioned earlier the smaller convertor would have less rotating mass .I love you guys ...


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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187919
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I made these yesterday and will report back with the results when i race it again.It was kind of a pain cuz my headers have no flanges.I had a guy at a muffler shop flare one end of sum tubing so they would slip over the collectors.I fabed up sum ears and welded them to the collector and extensions so i can remove them if they dont help .The SB seems to be more crisp down low with the extensions .Now for the cool can ...

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Re: 6 sec, time slip on a budget (help) [Re: The Shocker] #1187920
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I made these yesterday and will report back with the results when i race it again.It was kind of a pain cuz my headers have no flanges.I had a guy at a muffler shop flare one end of sum tubing so they would slip over the collectors.I fabed up sum ears and welded them to the collector and extensions so i can remove them if they dont help .The SB seems to be more crisp down low with the extensions .Now for the cool can ...




Start with the collector at 18"(from the end of the
primary tubes) try it.... then cut 2" off and try
it again... see which is best... might have to make
another set but you will know what you need for length

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