Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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No sir, you must have the power pack to test the EL lighting. The cheapest unit I have seen available is $80.
I'm not looking to test or have the lights work at this point. Just want to have the gauges work right now and deal with the lights later 
Will the gauges work with out have the power pack hooked up?
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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No sir, you must have the power pack to test the EL lighting. The cheapest unit I have seen available is $80.
I'm not looking to test or have the lights work at this point. Just want to have the gauges work right now and deal with the lights later
Will the gauges work with out have the power pack hooked up?
 Sorry my brain popped out of gear...see edit.
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
[Re: Jeremiah]
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No sir, you must have the power pack to test the EL lighting. The cheapest unit I have seen available is $80.
I'm not looking to test or have the lights work at this point. Just want to have the gauges work right now and deal with the lights later
Will the gauges work with out have the power pack hooked up?
Sorry my brain popped out of gear...see edit.
 Cool...... thanks for the help 
I have always loved that dash and the Coronet is my favorite car so I decided to combine them!!!!
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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Yes you can run the gauges off of regular 12V. The EL lighting is an independent circuit (white wire, red connector) on the cluster. The gauges get 5V from the 5V regulator built into the fuel gauge. These usually fail over time and can be bypassed with an external 5V regulator. From memory the basic tests for the gauges are as follows:
Fuel : 10-73 Ohms
Oil : 20 Ohms at rest
Temp : 20 Ohms at rest
Tach : With a DC battery across the posts on the back of the tach ('66 only) the tack should read 2k RPM.
note: These readings will not guarantee accuracy.
It would be cool to also add the console with the EL lighting if you were planning on running an automatic transmission.
Let me know if you have any questions and I can try to help.
Yep, my car is a factory console/Auto car so I have the OG front buckets/console in it. I also have the rear bucket seat/console set up from the Charger that I had intended to use as well but am not sure I want to go through all that work or not. My car is a convertible so it may be to narrow any way. I may change my mind though.......
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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I can measure the dash to the back of the seats in our Charger and compare it to the Coronet 500 vert. if that would help. After seeing your car it has been growing on us to do the EL lighting conversion to the Coronet. I even have a spare cluster, wiring harness, etc. to do it but already having two cars with EL lights it's kind of nice to have something different.
Make sure to use the Charger specific dash pad or the EL lights will reflect off of the inside of the windshield at night like a heads up display.
That would be very kind of you and helpful if you measured for me.
I also have a full charger dash wiring harness. Would it be easier to use some if it for the conversion?
I'll check out the Charger dash pads as well
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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So if the 5v regulator is good on the fuel gauge, all I will need to do is run a 12v source to it and all the gauges will work off that one wire??
You will have to test it and see if it is still working but even if it is I'd get a 5V external unit. The originals are prone to failure because the points can stick or the ni-chrome wire can deteriorate over time. These failures will either cause the 5V regulator to open and provide no voltage or stick closed and provide full 12V which will smoke the gauges. It is advisable to get an external 5V regulator.
To answer your question, the Temp and Oil gauges get power from the Fuel gauge. There should be a brown or black wire that connects them together across the back of the cluster that is independent of the other wiring. The Tachometer has a ground on the driver's side lug and a spade terminal on the passenger side lug. The spade terminal should hook up to the Yellow wire from the tach sending unit that is next to the EL power pack under the dash.
Here is a picture of the fuel gauge / 5V regulator for reference:
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
[Re: oldsklharo]
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I can measure the dash to the back of the seats in our Charger and compare it to the Coronet 500 vert. if that would help. After seeing your car it has been growing on us to do the EL lighting conversion to the Coronet. I even have a spare cluster, wiring harness, etc. to do it but already having two cars with EL lights it's kind of nice to have something different.
Make sure to use the Charger specific dash pad or the EL lights will reflect off of the inside of the windshield at night like a heads up display.
That would be very kind of you and helpful if you measured for me.
I also have a full charger dash wiring harness. Would it be easier to use some if it for the conversion?
I'll check out the Charger dash pads as well
I would use the entire wiring harness. It is the same harness with the EL stuff added in. All of the wiring from the headlight switch to the EL power pack, tach sender, etc being in the correct place would save you a bunch of time.
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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The power pak is just for the dash lights.The needles also have to be fairly decent as they glow when the dash lights them.They are knd of hard to see if they arent in decent shape.My kids 62 300 and the 66 Charger has them.I bought the last 2 new PPs that were in dealer stock a few years ago.Still have one as the kid stripped the Charger.Its a spare for his brothers 62.Rocky
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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The power pak is just for the dash lights.The needles also have to be fairly decent as they glow when the dash lights them.They are knd of hard to see if they arent in decent shape.My kids 62 300 and the 66 Charger has them.I bought the last 2 new PPs that were in dealer stock a few years ago.Still have one as the kid stripped the Charger.Its a spare for his brothers 62.Rocky
Here they are Rocky. I haven't cleaned them up at all in these pics either..........I will end up taking them apart and clean them the best I can before final install
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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02/25/12 09:49 AM
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Dont rub the needles.They have a coating that glows when the light come on.Those look pretty good.I wish I still had the dash from the 66.Id post a pic of some that looked like NOS.The Charger only has 50K and was garage kept most of it life.Still bugs me that my son striped it.Rocky
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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Dont rub the needles.They have a coating that glows when the light come on.Those look pretty good.I wish I still had the dash from the 66.Id post a pic of some that looked like NOS.The Charger only has 50K and was garage kept most of it life.Still bugs me that my son striped it.Rocky
It's not hurting my feelings any! Do you have any pics of the whole car Rocky? What about the fender tag? Sorry about the hi-jack.
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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Dont rub the needles.They have a coating that glows when the light come on.Those look pretty good.I wish I still had the dash from the 66.Id post a pic of some that looked like NOS.The Charger only has 50K and was garage kept most of it life.Still bugs me that my son striped it.Rocky
It's not hurting my feelings any! Do you have any pics of the whole car Rocky? What about the fender tag? Sorry about the hi-jack.
Thanks for the needle tip Rock! Ya my needles look really vibrant in person.
Don't be sorry Jeremiah, I wanna see pics to!
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Re: Electroluminescent Gauge Cluster Power Pack Questions??
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02/26/12 09:12 AM
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I think my kid has pics from when it was driving.The tag is nothing special as it was a poly SB auto with PS and manual brakes.It did have a SG though.Thats in my garage now.I almost stuck the 440 4 speed from my 65 in it.Now its pretty much just a body.He tried to sell it whole but got more parting it.Rocky
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