4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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What do you guys prefer? Engine is out of the car so I am going to do a mock-up, but when you are under the car, what do you prefer?
Thanks.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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... and in my case safer. I'm not that big of a guy. This is a cast iron 4-speed.
I was looking at the jack adapters that you remove the pad off a standard jack and replace with a transmission adapter. There is one that seems adjustable which might work. Need to look around some more.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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I've done auto trans on my back way back.. muuuuuchhhh easier w/ a jack. I'd use a jack.
Definitely use a jack. For the life of me though- why couldn't the trans manufacturers cast the case with a flat pad on the bottom that would sit on a trans or floor jack without tipping over or wanting to fall off all the time
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
[Re: TooMany62s]
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I've always rassled them in and out by hand, but I sure would like one of them jacks.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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A jack for sure. I have never muscled one in on back, and never will. I have a old floor trans jack that has a large flat pad, but as stated, the way the case is, it just wants to flop around. I would build a simple adapter just for the 833'2 because of this. I have done them on a regular floor jack too, but its a little unnerving when it get some height and I have had them fall off before---thus me reasoning for building a simple and specific adapter. I bet it would cost less than $20 in materials to make.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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Gus, you've always got my back, I appreciate it. I'll let you know. I was going to go over to HF and see what they have. I hate supporting that place... but all this stuff is imported, so I guess I'll avoid the mark-up. For, you guys that made the custom adapters? I was thinking about fabbing a small cradle of some sort that followed the contours of the case. Is this how you did yours, or you have brackets, etc. that use some existing holes in the case? Thanks!
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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I bought one of these cheapies from Harbor Freight. I've used it for 833's five or six times. Much easier than muscle especially if your old, like me.
I have one of those too. Know what you mean about the old part also.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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What do you guys prefer? Engine is out of the car so I am going to do a mock-up, but when you are under the car, what do you prefer?
Thanks.
when I was a younger man, I used to bench press them in. It only took a few seconds. Then one day, few years ago, I tried the same tactic. I almost had it and then I couldn't hold it and it landed on my chest. I couldn't get it off. My wife had to rescue me.
So now its a jack and 3 assistants. Takes longer but it sure is safer.
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Re: 4-Speed Install, Muscle or Jack
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833, I've never worked with, but hear they are heavy!! I'd use a jack. 727, I used a jack. T-56, I slid under the truck, tipped the gearbox up and slid myself under it, then pulled it up onto my chest, then I benchpressed the gearbox up into the bell housing and into position. it was very easy, but that gearbox even though it's big, only weighs about 70-75 lbs. I probably push more weight than that when I'm doing a pushup, and for my annual fitness test I have to knock out about 60 in a minute I did my NV3500 the same way, it's about the same as the T-56 as far as weight, but has that big ole bell housing cast into the case...actually made it easier. gave a nice solid "handle" to grab it and secure the trans with a good grip to angle and wiggle it into position through the clutch. never thought about losing an eye doing it, but ouch, and yea, I could see that happening. I never pushed up though, unless I had a very firm grip on the gearbox first, and felt like I could maneuver it around as needed. as I get older though, and not as strong...I may find myself suing hydraulics more and more
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