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Installing new lifters into a 360LA? #1179972 02/17/12 03:44 PM 02/17/12 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	I am getting 16 new Hydraulic lifters in today. Along with break in oil and Cam/Lifter Lube. This is the first time working inside my engine so if I could get some intructions... I have some books to go by but they are using an 5.9 magnum as there example. Also what is the recommendation on pre soaking the lifters in oil. Do I follow the same break in procedure as breaking in a new cam? Thanks for your help Moparts

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179973 02/17/12 04:25 PM 02/17/12 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Mose cam & lifter suppliers don't recommend pre-soaking the lifters any more. Put a good cam lube on the bases of the lifter and light oil on the lifter sides (not cam lube). If the engine has been run and you are just replacing the lifters (for what ever reason) install and reassemble and fire the engine the lifters should pump on there own.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: MoparforLife] #1179974 02/17/12 04:50 PM 02/17/12 04:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	OK. Thanks. Your supposed to return each pushrod to the same spot, correct?

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179975 02/17/12 08:13 PM 02/17/12 08:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	I wouldn't worry about where the push rods go.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: MoparforLife] #1179976 02/17/12 08:36 PM 02/17/12 08:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada C can.al pro stock
can.al pro stock C Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada	...i have heard you can change the lifters without removing the intake but have no first hand experience.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: can.al] #1179977 02/17/12 10:51 PM 02/17/12 10:51 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 817 Eugene, Oregon Secret Chimp super stock
Secret Chimp super stock Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 817 Eugene, Oregon	I just did it on my 318 without removing the intake. It is tricky to do on the rear cylinders where there's stuff blocking your view but you can do it. I used that $8 expanding-tang tool that grabs the inner lip of the lifter. 1967 Dodge Coronet Deluxe station wagon 1.03" T-bars, QA1 arms/rods, Cordoba/GM Metric/Volare brake & knuckle, XHDs, Hellwig rear sway, 318 Magnum w/ air gap, 727, 3.23s

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Secret Chimp] #1179978 02/17/12 10:55 PM 02/17/12 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC master
JonC master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	Quote: I just did it on my 318 without removing the intake. It is tricky to do on the rear cylinders where there's stuff blocking your view but you can do it. I used that $8 expanding-tang tool that grabs the inner lip of the lifter. But I used a magnetic retriever.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: JonC] #1179979 02/17/12 11:28 PM 02/17/12 11:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 650 Kansas R racincuda mopar
racincuda mopar R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 650 Kansas	I HIGHLY recomend soaking th lifters at least overnite before installation. Lifters without any oil in them can make for hard starting and very slow rpm after it starts, Exactly wat you dont want.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: MoparforLife] #1179980 02/17/12 11:37 PM 02/17/12 11:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Mose cam & lifter suppliers don't recommend pre-soaking the lifters any more. Put a good cam lube on the bases of the lifter and light oil on the lifter sides (not cam lube). If the engine has been run and you are just replacing the lifters (for what ever reason) install and reassemble and fire the engine the lifters should pump on there own. Wonder what the reason is for not soaking them? I always have...not saying it's right?

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179981 02/17/12 11:37 PM 02/17/12 11:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Also what is the recommendation on pre soaking the lifters in oil. Do I follow the same break in procedure as breaking in a new cam? When you preoil the eng w your drill it'll take care of the lifter internals. I would mockup/check the lifters in their bores: clean lifters/bore w brake kleen and mockup lifters w WD40 in their bore then raise each one up off of its' lobe w your finger & release it & the lifter should fall back onto its' lobe w a resounding "thunk" & if not it's too tight & need honed. This is the #1 caveat to prevent cam lifter breakin failure. The lifters MUST be free to rotate. W all the reported cam failures nowadays nothing can be left to chance. Also black Moly paste on lobes/lifter BOTTOMS only. High zinc oil for the life of the eng. Want eng to light off immediately PROPER PREP live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: RapidRobert] #1179982 02/18/12 02:31 PM 02/18/12 02:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	OK so I am supposed to soak them or not, Conflicting answers are confusing me LOL 1977 D-150 Warlock 360/727 2021 Challenger T/A 392/M6 Its pronounced Dirte'

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179983 02/18/12 03:40 PM 02/18/12 03:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,457 oklahoma F forphorty pro stock
forphorty pro stock F Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,457 oklahoma	http://www.compcams.com/Instructions/Files/COMP4-115.pdf

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: forphorty] #1179984 02/18/12 04:11 PM 02/18/12 04:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	OK so I pulled the rocker arms off and got to the push rods and I found a huge problem a bent pushrod with really bad wear across the side and then the pushrod that goes with this one has a ring wore around the upper half and so does one on the passenger side... what in the hell caused this? I will attach pics when my photobucket stops l;ocking me out for failing to remember my password

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179985 02/18/12 04:55 PM 02/18/12 04:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	1977 D-150 Warlock 360/727 2021 Challenger T/A 392/M6 Its pronounced Dirte'

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179986 02/18/12 04:57 PM 02/18/12 04:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ R Redleg OP member
Redleg OP member R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 36 Goodyear, AZ	1977 D-150 Warlock 360/727 2021 Challenger T/A 392/M6 Its pronounced Dirte'

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179987 02/18/12 07:58 PM 02/18/12 07:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,583 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,583 md	I never soaked any of my lifters and I never had a problem. Just cam lube on the bottom and light oil on the sides and push rod hole. I guess dipping them in oil and soaking wouldn`t hurt but I never bothered with it but I`m far from a expert for sure. Also any time you install new lifters you need to break them in unless they are rollers.

Re: Installing new lifters into a 360LA? [Re: Redleg] #1179988 02/18/12 08:34 PM 02/18/12 08:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,758 Windsor, ON, Canada D Diplomat360 top fuel
Diplomat360 top fuel D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,758 Windsor, ON, Canada	Soaked mine in, and since the engine was on the stand I took quite some time to set these up. These were the Sealed Power/Speed Pro anti-pump up lifters, so with adjustable rockers I had set them (per instructions) to just take up any clearance but NOT to actually depress the lifter plunger. Easy way to do this was to rotate the pushrod in one hand while tightenning the rocker adjuster screw with the other. Once the slack in the pushrod rotation was gone, the job was done.

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