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Industrial Hemi #1178892
02/15/12 05:57 PM
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How different is an Industrial Hemi than a Hemi in a car?
I am hearing about a pumping station that might be torn down that has a Hemi in it. I am thinking of putting it in my 46 Plymouth Coupe.
What do you think?
How to check on the motor? It might be a 56?, 354?
Thanks Harry

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First you need to decode it to see exactly what it is. There are Dodge, Desoto, and Chrysler industrial engines. Most all will have an "industrial" tag riveted onto the block near the bellhousing area.
All true Industrials used sodium filled exhaust valves. Most ran 2 bbl carbs, but I have seen single 1bbl intakes as well. Some used truck/Industrial cylinder heads and others used car type heads. Pictures and casting numbers are the only way to tell what you have.

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Re: Industrial Hemi [Re: Twisted_Cuda] #1178895
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that one looks like it has the cast in bellhousing as part of block like many did would be useless for car ap,need rear block pic


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Re: Industrial Hemi [Re: Twisted_Cuda] #1178897
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My my, look at that row of HEMIs.

TR, what were the DeSoto industerials used on and what did the Valve Covers (or wire covers) have on them? Just wondering.


1957 Plymouth (Hemi, Dual Quads, A833 4 Speed 9 1/4 w 4.10) Sold
1937 Dodge Pickup (Hemi, 6X2 intake, 46RH, Dana 60 w 4.56) Sold
1968 Plymouth Valiant 2dr sedan (354 HEMI, 46RH w/4.30 gears)
Re: Industrial Hemi [Re: Mike P] #1178898
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I would try to buy them all. If you dont want them, let me know The 56A ia a 354.

It seems like the Desotos were used in smaller ag equipment. I am assumming they used the Fire Dome wire covers. None of my advertising show the wire covers.

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Thanks guys, I will keep you posted as I hear more.

Re: Industrial Hemi [Re: Mike P] #1178900
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Buy them all if $500 apiece or less. Seriously! One thing for sure, they are well seasoned!

A 354 is a mighty nice engine and I am seeing them listed rebuildable for $1000 or more, up to $2500 by some dreamers. Industrial engines had some quirks about water pumps IIRC but those can be overcome.
Looks like the standard bellhousing mount. I think the externded BH ended with the 1953 model year, the '54s were "regular".

To anyone who thinks an extended housing block is worthless, bring it over. I have an adapter for extended block to chevy 4-speed and I think you can buy them new as well. A nice 331 would do well in my '64Dog.

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Here is what people dont realize about these types of engines, and exactly why you cant throw out a $500 - $1000/ea price.
Do you see any fans on these? I dont. That means they are cooled by whatever water they are pumping. I havent asked the OP where they are located. That's his business. But I have torn enough of these apart to know the effects of 1: those cooled and sitting for 50+ years with straight water, and 2: those that have pumped and been cooled by salt water or brine for 50+ years. In either case, your $500 or $1000 engine is now worth scrap price minus your labor cost to get the thing and the cost to recycle the oil inside.
As the saying goes, Hard telling not knowing.

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Good point. I was thinking Kansas where they'd run in the summer irrigating and sit dry all winter. But Massachusetts is a whole nother can of worms.
Caveat emptor!
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