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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: ChrisJohnston669] #1174416
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Always have. Almost like trying to remove black grease off the fenders!!

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: ChrisJohnston669] #1174417
02/10/12 12:16 PM
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did anyone else have a hard time getting the rubber from the burnout off the car!?




Nasty stuff. I now use clear 3M film behind the tires. I let it build up for awhile, then peel it off and start over.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: PolyDart] #1174418
02/10/12 01:12 PM
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I tried a set of Mickey Thompsons last August and the results were no good. Bad tire spin and I lost .1 in 60 foot. I put an old set of Phoenix's back on the car that I bought last year and the car hooked hard. I bought a set of double adjustable shocks for the rear of my Dart replacing my single adjustables and we will give the Phoenix tires 1 more shot. I am running on Feb 20th at Infineon and will report with the results. Here is a video of the last pass on a cold track with the wornout Phoenix tires.
http://youtu.be/1HtN08OzO0s
Steve

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: WheelsUp73] #1174419
02/11/12 04:55 AM
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i didn't read all the reply's but they are firestones correct?

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: jamesc] #1174420
02/11/12 09:58 AM
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that's what i heard.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: rickraw] #1174421
03/23/12 10:54 PM
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Looking for Any updates on the quality of the new phoenix slicks? Bunch of us around here prefer them over the other brands. We still can't get the ph-379's (13x31) A buddy just bought some 12.2 31.25 W's And to me? The compound feels too soft to be the same old f-9 compound. Will be a few weeks before his engine is back in the car to try them out.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 727builder] #1174422
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Looking for Any updates on the quality of the new phoenix slicks? Bunch of us around here prefer them over the other brands. We still can't get the ph-379's (13x31) A buddy just bought some 12.2 31.25 W's And to me? The compound feels too soft to be the same old f-9 compound. Will be a few weeks before his engine is back in the car to try them out.




I bought a set of 33 X 10.5 W PH103s and they seem too hard to me...I think they were old leftovers or something.

Didn't work worth a crap last weekend. I was going to make a few adjustments and try them one more time this weekend and now it looks like a washout.....

Anyone ever run the 10.5W PH103s on here?


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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 727builder] #1174423
03/24/12 08:44 AM
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A buddy just bought some 12.2 31.25 W's And to me? The compound feels too soft to be the same old f-9 compound. Will be a few weeks before his engine is back in the car to try them out.


Keep me posted on his experience at the track. Those are the size I run and I plan to buy new slicks in April.

I can't afford a $600 mistake, then buy another brand for $600 more. I am trying to keep a cool head, but I am worried from the reports of existing Pheonix users that are having problems with new ones.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 440Jim] #1174424
03/24/12 10:12 AM
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A buddy just bought some 12.2 31.25 W's And to me? The compound feels too soft to be the same old f-9 compound. Will be a few weeks before his engine is back in the car to try them out.


Keep me posted on his experience at the track. Those are the size I run and I plan to buy new slicks in April.

I can't afford a $600 mistake, then buy another brand for $600 more. I am trying to keep a cool head, but I am worried from the reports of existing Pheonix users that are having problems with new ones.





X2


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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: CHAPPER] #1174425
03/24/12 07:56 PM
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A buddy just bought some 12.2 31.25 W's And to me? The compound feels too soft to be the same old f-9 compound. Will be a few weeks before his engine is back in the car to try them out.


Keep me posted on his experience at the track. Those are the size I run and I plan to buy new slicks in April.

I can't afford a $600 mistake, then buy another brand for $600 more. I am trying to keep a cool head, but I am worried from the reports of existing Pheonix users that are having problems with new ones.





X2




Will do guys. But may be weeks before his is back together? His block is at the machine shop and is suppose to be ready to pick up this coming week? But we all know how that goes? lol

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 727builder] #1174426
03/25/12 12:00 AM
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I have been trying to get a set since
the first of the season last year,, and I don't
have any yet, I went to the hoosier brand,
and they costed me rds at every race I ran
on them, inconsistent on my car, I talked to
eric, and mike crutchfield at cooker, and they
said they are the same as they always were,
but I cannot say yes or no, because I cannot
get a set to try I also am on the list to get
a new set when they become available, and also
have a close friend who deals the phoenix tires,
and he cannot get them either, that is the size I
need the ph376, was told a month ago 2 to 3 weeks,
but their sence of time must be different then mine,
with the opening day of the racing season coming
up the first weekend of april, I am gonna have to decide
what I am gonna do, I have the old set I took off mine
last season, and I may pull the hoosiers and put the old
phoenix back on the car.
Mike crutchfield at cooker tole me it was bulls%^&t about the
tires not being any good, just some rumors the other
tire companys started, but with racers having trouble
with the tires working, it is hard to believe there is
not something to the tales.
I have run the phoenix tires ever since they became
available again, several years ago, and have had nothing
but good luck with them, and if I ever get another set to try
I can tell if there is any difference in them, and I have
the time slips, and the log book to back up any and all info,

Dave

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 65racer] #1174427
03/25/12 02:00 AM
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I spoke with Mike at Gainesville,he said the tires are the same coumpound.Phoenix users at Gainesville had no problems hooking up.


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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: Chris2581] #1174428
03/25/12 04:27 PM
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I spoke with Mike at Gainesville,he said the tires are the same coumpound.Phoenix users at Gainesville had no problems hooking up.



Track prep at a National or Divisional level race I'm sure is much better than your weekly bracket race. I had No luck with making the Phoenix tires work( did not hook once out of 23 runs on 2 different sets of new Phoenix tires) and I have sent back the first set of slicks I bought in January this year so they can analize them.I have not heard back from them.
Steve

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: WheelsUp73] #1174429
03/25/12 06:04 PM
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I race at Gainesville using Phoenix tires and have no problems hooking up.Sure the prep is better at a national or divisional,but you just had a case of bad luck IMHO.


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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 440Jim] #1174430
04/01/12 11:12 PM
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Well I re adjusted the suspension and I have to say I am quite impressed with these PH103s.

Doubled up and won both days in pro this weekend and other then a few shock adjustments these things were within a hundredth on the 60 ft just about every pass but maybe 1 and I think there was something on the track that pass.

10.5W cars to the front!

Never thought I would say that lol.


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68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152
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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: moparacer] #1174431
04/04/12 06:22 PM
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Just thought I would give an update on the Phoenix deal,
I just talked with Mike Crutchfield at Cooker, he said he
just got a production notice about the tires I use on my
car, the ph376 due to start production on them the latter part
of april said I should be able to get some by the middle
of may this sucks as far as I am concerned, I don't
know what other sizes are affected, but he said there were several
sizes they were having trouble getting, the problem is they have sold all their molds to someone in Pennsylvania, and they can't get
them to make the tires, see where this is going, I'm sure the
reguler or most used tires are the ones made first, the ones that they sell the most of, and the other sizes are just made when they get enought orders to justify making a bunch of sets, I am looking at goint to another size just to see if I can get any tires, these hoosiers I have on the car now ain't cutting it.

Dave

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 65racer] #1174432
04/04/12 06:56 PM
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Try M&H they hook like the Phoenix.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: rt66jim] #1174433
04/04/12 07:27 PM
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Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: StripeHOG] #1174434
04/05/12 12:41 AM
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I have had great success with Phoenix as well, been using them (32x14's) since 2000 winning many races and championships with them. At the beginning of last year, everyone was out of stock because of the problems they were having. I had to buy something so new M/T's went on and out of 30 passes it hooked once or twice. Mid season a few sets became available so I got a pair,put them on and the car went back to its old self. I recently noticed they had some in stock, so I figured I better grab a pair just in case even though I don't need them yet. I hope they are good! I'll be putting them on in the next month or 2 so I will report here when I do.

Re: Phoenix slicks [Re: 10sec440] #1174435
04/05/12 11:23 AM
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Thanks for sharing the experiences with the 14x32.
IMO the exact tire and application is important when talking about how a slick works (the "best" tire).

I am getting ready to pull the trigger and buy another set of 31.25 x 12.2 W. This is the size I have been running with great success for many years. My current set has 150 passes on them, and were still working great last weekend on a good track. But I want to be ready to put new ones on later this month (I have two sets of rims).

14" wide rim
1.24 sixty foot times
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Laddar bar, back half car.


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