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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: DPelletier] #1170515
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Well I'm pretty sure the tires will drive nice but now it looks like I'll be shopping for a set of slicks to try out at the track.I appreciate the info though guys,thanks

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 70 Roadrunner*] #1170516
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Here's a 489 case that came apart in a demolition derby car last summer.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 7D9LRE] #1170517
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For anyone who is interested in getting a TrueTrac differential Speed Tech is having a sale on them. Close out price is just $419.99 with free shipping!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400272922566


Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 7D9LRE] #1170518
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Here's a 489 case that came apart in a demolition derby car last summer.




I have one that looks worse. 30+ year old unit the exploded when I applied a mild 440 and 6 psi of boost to it. it might have 3 teeth left on the ring gear. That car only 60 footed at 1.65, but it was an oollllld unit that had some buzz to it before hand.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1170519
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doesnt diff doc have a new 742 case with forged caps.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: Scamp408] #1170520
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I put a narrowed 8 3/4 under the truck and wondered how long it would last. I think i will be fine untill i get a stickyer tire. The Mickey T's that i have on there now have O traction, or maybe it's the stroker up front.

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1957 Dodge truck, Snakeskin Green with a little stroker motor. 1964 Plymouth Savoy wagon ( my new project)
Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: rattler] #1170521
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I put a narrowed 8 3/4 under the truck and wondered how long it would last. I think i will be fine untill i get a stickyer tire. The Mickey T's that i have on there now have O traction, or maybe it's the stroker up front.




cool truck but dude that tank is LOW. And those big M/T are for cruising they are worthless at the track as you already know.


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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1170522
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I put a narrowed 8 3/4 under the truck and wondered how long it would last. I think i will be fine untill i get a stickyer tire. The Mickey T's that i have on there now have O traction, or maybe it's the stroker up front.




cool truck but dude that tank is LOW. And those big M/T are for cruising they are worthless at the track as you already know.




But they look great!

I went with BFG Radial T/A on my Dakota because I liked how they look, but knew they wouldn't hook.

to me, I'd rather look good than chase that last tenth of E.T. at the track, and break parts while doing it. I'll run it at the track in "street trim" and whatever it runs, it runs. It's cheaper to make smoke than it is to hook up!


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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 70Cuda383] #1170523
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I will probably change tires on my truck this summer, and will probably add a set of cal-tracs at the same time. That should help it to hook a little better. As far as the fuel tank, it is never lower than the bottom of the 8 3/4 center section, so that is not too bad.


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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: rattler] #1170524
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Here's a 489 case that came apart in a demolition derby car last summer.





Were the spiders welded on that one?

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1170525
02/04/12 09:20 PM
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Go get a Furd 9"...all the racers use them







Never will there ever be a Ford or GM part in my Mopar. I run over 500 hp to the wheels in a short bed truck with a 4.56 gears with a 493 and 1.47 to 1.50 60foots with Caltracs and my 8 3/4 has never given an issue. My next choice will be a Dana.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 82ramIndy493] #1170526
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There is another member on here from maine who can tell you 1st hand that they break pretty easy w a 4 speed and a stroker motor. He has broken a couple 3rd members. Broke the pinion rite off. 742 cases.


Life can be like fighting a dinosaur. Very hard
Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 4spdswinger340] #1170527
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Yes. spiders were welded, 3.91 out of a 74 4x4 truck. At least I got 4 derbies and 2 wins out of this rearend before it exploded. no sign of sloop or anything getting loose before giving up the ghost. Stock '72 440 out of a New Yorker. It would lay rubber threw 1st and 2nd gear on dry pavement.

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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 70 Roadrunner*] #1170528
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JohnRR...You said there's not much traction to BFG 295-50-15s? Damnnit I just spent a bunch of coin on a fresh set of rears!...and was hoping for traction ...this sucks




I always thought my car was pretty fast. I was a little worried I had some tranny slip on my 727 because the shifts always felt soft. When I changed out the BFG 295/50-15 Radial TAs and replaced them with 325/50-15 drag radials I found out otherwise. The difference was amazing. First time around the block I did a 1-2 shift at full throttle the ignition key cylinder and keys landed in the back seat. I also came to the realization that the car must have been hazing the tires all the way into third gear.


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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 4spdswinger340] #1170529
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There is another member on here from maine who can tell you 1st hand that they break pretty easy w a 4 speed and a stroker motor. He has broken a couple 3rd members. Broke the pinion rite off. 742 cases.


Whole different story when popping a clutch on a 4 speed than just launching with an automatic. The other thing is a 742 pinion is smaller in diamenter than the 489 which I run. I am not saying they can't break only that mine has held up fine for 16 years and I would choose it over a Ford Or GM rear anytime. Like I said my next choice is a Dana which the other member should have had to start with with a 4 speed.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 82ramIndy493] #1170530
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i have friends with low 10sec and mid to low 9sec cars with the 8 3/4. after market axils and spools. no issues sofar. i am not sure the case number though. all automatics.
i got a 9" out of a merc mid70s monarc and it goes rite in the duster.
put 33 spline axils, spool and the older strange pro case with 5/8 bolt and adpaters for the 3.062 spool to go in my 3.250 bearings.
strange makes a s60 dana copy also.
have fun.

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: dmking] #1170531
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I wish strange or moser would do this

Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: Scamp408] #1170532
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This looks nice, just call diff doc for info

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrysler-Dodge-M...=item48437e78a1

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Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 7D9LRE] #1170533
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Here's a 489 case that came apart in a demolition derby car last summer.





Re: how much hp can a 8.75 differential take? [Re: 82ramIndy493] #1170534
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There is another member on here from maine who can tell you 1st hand that they break pretty easy w a 4 speed and a stroker motor. He has broken a couple 3rd members. Broke the pinion rite off. 742 cases.


Whole different story when popping a clutch on a 4 speed than just launching with an automatic. The other thing is a 742 pinion is smaller in diamenter than the 489 which I run. I am not saying they can't break only that mine has held up fine for 16 years and I would choose it over a Ford Or GM rear anytime. Like I said my next choice is a Dana which the other member should have had to start with with a 4 speed.




this is not a knock at you ....

You have a little misconception in your thoughts about what is stronger . The smallest part of a 742 pinion is the area where the outer pinion bearing is , coincidently the 499 and the 741 are also the same size in that same area , the 489 and the 741 use the same outer bearing . If the 742 broke I'd wager that is where it broke so your theory on the 489 being stronger because the pinion is .125 large under the pinion head doesn't hold up.

In my opinion the 742 is the strongest of the 3 , it's inner pinion bearing has rollers that are about twice the length of the 498 , more like that of the dana 60 and it doesn't have a crush sleeve like a 489, yes you can replace it with a solid spacer. When Chrysler made the aluminum center section they chose the 489 pinion even though the 489 has more gear sets available.

The gear teeth are still the weak point .

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