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SMR or Cope racing? #1169664 01/31/12 10:35 PM 01/31/12 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Any pros or cons to either of these options? Both appear to be good companies. Looking at 727 ro 904 with GV unit. I know that SMR offers a "shortie" version. Not sure if it is that much different or not. Thanks C

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169665 02/01/12 12:29 AM 02/01/12 12:29 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish master
bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i got a race tranny from smr and had to fix it after a few runs,it wasnt anything serious but it was a hassle.other than that its a great peice.i got a tranny from cope for a much more hp motor and beat the snot out of it,no problems.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169666 02/01/12 01:04 AM 02/01/12 01:04 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	I have bought a bunch of parts from Cope and he was really helpful and a good guy to deal with.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: 451Mopar] #1169667 02/01/12 01:28 AM 02/01/12 01:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: I have bought a bunch of parts from Cope and he was really helpful and a good guy to deal with. Seemed to be a genuine guy when I was on the phone with him.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169668 02/01/12 02:12 AM 02/01/12 02:12 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy S slowpoke enthusiast
slowpoke enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy	I have an SMR built trans with a GV behind a healthy bb stroker and have hammered on it for many years. This after I bought it from a buddy who had done the same for a bunch of years prior! I've talked to Pat (owner) a couple times and he is a very nice guy and spent time helping me get the setup right in my car. Would not hesitate to recommend his work and will definitely have him build me another if this one ever finally breaks.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169669 02/01/12 09:08 AM 02/01/12 09:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	I have never dealt with SMR, but Cope is top notch.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: dustergirl340] #1169670 02/01/12 09:29 AM 02/01/12 09:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,456 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,456 It's a dry heat	Quote: I have never dealt with SMR, but Cope is top notch. Ditto, Never dealt with SMR so I can't help you there. But I have dealt with John Cope several times. And is hands down the best tranny guy I know. (And I know how to build auto transmissions - but I know my limitations) When the times comes to get another trans thats for a non stock build I will use CRT without question.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: gtx6970] #1169671 02/01/12 10:52 AM 02/01/12 10:52 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,013 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 I Live Here
Moparnut426 I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,013 Finally a HUSKER again	SMR just because Pat is a top notch guy. COPE is a good company also, have used cope parts in a few rebuilds. Kasey

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: Moparnut426] #1169672 02/01/12 01:02 PM 02/01/12 01:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV B babarracuda pro stock
babarracuda pro stock B Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV	Isn't SMR in Canada?

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: babarracuda] #1169673 02/01/12 02:54 PM 02/01/12 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Isn't SMR in Canada? Yes. I believe so. Is that an issue?

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169674 02/01/12 02:56 PM 02/01/12 02:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa 5 540challenger master
540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Quote: Quote: Isn't SMR in Canada? Yes. I believe so. Is that an issue? It could be an issue. Nothing wrong with anything being built in Canada however shipping cost would suck.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: 540challenger] #1169675 02/01/12 03:01 PM 02/01/12 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Isn't SMR in Canada? Yes. I believe so. Is that an issue? It could be an issue. Nothing wrong with anything being built in Canada however shipping cost would suck. Good point. Total cost/value.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169676 02/01/12 03:38 PM 02/01/12 03:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,013 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 I Live Here
Moparnut426 I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,013 Finally a HUSKER again	Pat has a friend accross the river in detroit I think, he took our trans over to him, and shipped it USA, and shipping wasnt an issue. It was only $75, or $85 to have the trans shipped to us when I lived in Wyoming. Kasey

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: Moparnut426] #1169677 02/03/12 06:47 PM 02/03/12 06:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Pat has a friend accross the river in detroit I think, he took our trans over to him, and shipped it USA, and shipping wasnt an issue. It was only $75, or $85 to have the trans shipped to us when I lived in Wyoming. Kasey How long ago was that?

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169678 02/03/12 10:12 PM 02/03/12 10:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,552 Michigan K Kiddart pro stock
Kiddart pro stock K Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,552 Michigan	Cope Top Notch and stands behind everything he sells!! Thank you Kiddart

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: Kiddart] #1169679 02/03/12 10:41 PM 02/03/12 10:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,198 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,198 Park Forest, IL	Instead of a trans and a GV unit, why not contact member 727specialists about an A-500 or 518? "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: slantzilla] #1169680 02/04/12 12:02 AM 02/04/12 12:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Instead of a trans and a GV unit, why not contact member 727specialists about an A-500 or 518? Don't want to modify the cross member or floor pan. May look into him for a 727 - GV option as well.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169681 02/04/12 12:08 AM 02/04/12 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,763 Windsor, ON, Canada D Diplomat360 top fuel
Diplomat360 top fuel D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,763 Windsor, ON, Canada	I was doing my first ever 727 re-build...bought my kit from SMR...ran into a problem, middle of the weekend...called, was told that he was out racing, but as soon as he'd be back the message would be passed on. Well, I thought: "...man...I'm stuck...I'll never hear from the guy for another 2 weeks at best...". SURPRISE!!!...he literally called back within just a few hours...that very same date, right after he came back home from the race...but he called back and talked me through the problem I had...how is that for customer service??? And all I got from him at that time was a rebuild kit, certainly not a big buck item! He's getting all of my future business for sure because he's made a customer for life with that simple gesture.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: Diplomat360] #1169682 02/04/12 12:12 AM 02/04/12 12:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: I was doing my first ever 727 re-build...bought my kit from SMR...ran into a problem, middle of the weekend...called, was told that he was out racing, but as soon as he'd be back the message would be passed on. Well, I thought: "...man...I'm stuck...I'll never hear from the guy for another 2 weeks at best...". SURPRISE!!!...he literally called back within just a few hours...that very same date, right after he came back home from the race...but he called back and talked me through the problem I had...how is that for customer service??? And all I got from him at that time was a rebuild kit, certainly not a big buck item! He's getting all of my future business for sure because he's made a customer for life with that simple gesture. Don't hear too many stories like that nowadays. Glad to see customer service hasn't been totally lost in the whatever is cheapest Walmart world.

Re: SMR or Cope racing? [Re: ramman5600] #1169683 02/04/12 04:52 PM 02/04/12 04:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,149 Central NC gch master
gch master Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,149 Central NC	Bought my converter from Pat at SMR and he did my last one also(foolishly sold it).Stall was dead on both times. Will use him again. Can't say I have heard anything negative about Cope either.

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