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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167191
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WIPERS!? that is what rain x is for,LOL J/K my 8-71 is 4.5" from that hole just fyi.


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: Clanton] #1167192
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Well,well,well looky here. The Blower shop makes a Billet 14-71 front offset with anodized rotors part #2058 This might be the ticket if it will clear the distributor




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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167193
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on my RB block and 3.5" BDS intake the MSD dist would hit on the dist cap lockdown tab but if the intake is lets say 1" taller [4.5"] it would not hit so maybe if i phased the dist another way it could work also.
edit: i take that back!the dist hits my intercooler and would miss the blower due to its round shape on the side.

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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167194
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Well,well,well looky here. The Blower shop makes a Billet 14-71 front offset with anodized rotors part #2058 This might be the ticket if it will clear the distributor







It will clear,I just wonder how the blower drive would work out with the drive pullies

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i am sure any offset can be handled on the crank pulley spacer with the blower pulley against the blower.


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167196
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Do they have pic's of the bottom of the blower? The reason I ask is as I have been told when the blower spins it naturally trys to push the out going air to the front of the rotors under compresion. From what I see in the picture there is no where for the air to exit. It will have some sort of swill efect and I would think be very ineficent. That is why the alky guys are seting the blowers/rotors back.

Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: cudacustoms1] #1167197
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do you think thay turned the rotors around also?


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: Clanton] #1167198
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I am calling them tomorrow and get some details. Not sure if it is pie shaped or square on the bottom.Guess I could just buy an 8 or 10-71 but if I could make a 14-71 work I could make more boost at less rpm with a cooler intake charge.One thing Hampton told me about the 14-71 with carbs is that fuel tends to pool in the extra length section that is not open. Sorry about all the questions but I want to do this just one time and I appreciate everyones input.


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: hemi-itis] #1167199
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Well,well,well looky here. The Blower shop makes a Billet 14-71 front offset with anodized rotors part #2058 This might be the ticket if it will clear the distributor







It will clear,I just wonder how the blower drive would work out with the drive pullies




They make a drive snout that is only 3.90 inches long.Would require having the idler pulley bracket bolt to the blower instead of the arm style you have.


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167200
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I am calling them tomorrow and get some details. Not sure if it is pie shaped or square on the bottom.Guess I could just buy an 8 or 10-71 but if I could make a 14-71 work I could make more boost at less rpm with a cooler intake charge.One thing Hampton told me about the 14-71 with carbs is that fuel tends to pool in the extra length section that is not open. Sorry about all the questions but I want to do this just one time and I appreciate everyones input.


I started to suggest a 10 or a 12-71 might give you a little breathing room space-wise and still give you enough boost at a comfortable overdrive. Wouldn't get too hung up on heat buildup, you're not going to have that much at the rpm's it looks like you're expecting to run......
I've got a Bowers 10-71 sitting on the shelf, will try to get a measurement off of it later tonight just to give you an idea of the difference in it and the 14.
*Update*
Looks like the 10-71 is about an 1 3/4" shorter than the my 14-71 measuring from the last blower stud to the rear. The rotors themselves are exactly 2" shorter, the difference in overall length is due to differences in the end plates. Keep in mind they are both old school style non-setback cases, based on the original GMC cases.

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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167201
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Well,well,well looky here. The Blower shop makes a Billet 14-71 front offset with anodized rotors part #2058 This might be the ticket if it will clear the distributor

I think you would need a crank support with all that leverage on the crank snout. It would probably have to be custom. Attached is a pic of one for a bbc.

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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: Craig] #1167202
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No need for custom, RBS Superchargers carries them, although I think its probably overkill for this application and don't think it would be user friendly if you have other belt driven accessories, not to mention expensive.

http://www.rbssuperchargers.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=145472&InfoID=3921

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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 23T Hemmee] #1167203
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I called The blower shop today and they said the 14 has a pie shape outlet. The 10-71 has a square and a pie outlet. They just turn the case around for the front offset and the air comes out towards the rear, whereas a standard 10-71 comes out toward the front. I called Superchargers USA today and talked to the owner (Tim) who worked for BDS as lead design engineer for 19 years. After talking and listening to him for 45 minutes I felt real good about his customer service before and after the sale.They also have a 3 year warranty on everything if you buy the blower and drive kit from him. He is building me a 10-71 StageIII that has teflon only on the edge of the rotors. It should make 11 pounds at a 1 to 1 ratio with 100 octane and stay cooler than an 8-71. He and Jim Oddy are buds and this guy knows his stuff. Also said the front offset blowers loose up to 200 horspower because of the design, he and Oddy proved it on a dyno. So I will get the drive system in 6 or 7 days and the blower in 8 to 10 weeks, said they have 100 orders right now so business must be good.Thanks again for taking time to meaure and discuss this as I am anal and want to do it just once


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167204
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Nothing anal about wanting to do it right and only spending the money once, sounds like you've got the plan working for you. Oughta be killer......


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Re: 14-71 in a 67 b-body [Re: 67HEMI] #1167205
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I guess the next purchase will be an engine diaper and a case of driver's diapers!


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thanks for keeping us informed.that 200hp loss is most likely at the top end of it rpm limit.after the 1st few times you run the blower you will find teflon in the intak so just wipe it out.
edit:here is a prior topic on blowers.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=5155317

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What kind of money is this 10-71 setup going to cost??
Just a ballpark amount would be fine.
I would like to do the same on my 36 ply coupe project but I have no idea what the cost would be. I am awhile away and don't want to waste anyones time on the phone when they could be making money.
Thanks for any help on pricing. you can pm me if you want.
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What kind of money is this 10-71 setup going to cost??
Just a ballpark amount would be fine.
I would like to do the same on my 36 ply coupe project but I have no idea what the cost would be. I am awhile away and don't want to waste anyones time on the phone when they could be making money.
Thanks for any help on pricing. you can pm me if you want.
David





Check out their site they have pricing listed for all kits.

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What kind of money is this 10-71 setup going to cost??
Just a ballpark amount would be fine.
I would like to do the same on my 36 ply coupe project but I have no idea what the cost would be. I am awhile away and don't want to waste anyones time on the phone when they could be making money.
Thanks for any help on pricing. you can pm me if you want.
David




I bought just the blower and 8mm drive kit with mounting gaskets and it was 4780.14. He gave me 5% off for buying both.


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