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440 Cam #1162440
01/22/12 02:26 AM
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Trying to decide on what cam to use in my mildly built 440. Here are the specs:

- 78' 440 bored .030
- L2355 Flat Top (Six Pack) Pistons 2.06 CH
- 452 heads, 86-88cc, 2.14/1.81 valved, mild port work
- Dual Plane Performer or Performer RPM Intake
- FAST EZ-EFI Fuel Injection System
- 4 Speed Car Stage 2 Clutch
- 3.23 or 3.55 gear

The only real restrictor is that I want to run the factory hi-po manifolds rather than headers. The two cams I am looking at is either Lunati's 60303 or 60304. Hughes recommended their 2328 camshaft. I have manual brakes, power steering, 4 speed, and A/c, so vacuum is not an issue. Have to thank the original owner for his choice of options.

Lunati 60303: http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=2337&gid=297
Lunati 60304: http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=2338&gid=297
Hughes 2328: http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/products.php?browse=search&search=2328&partid=21850

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Re: 440 Cam Selection [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162441
01/22/12 02:29 AM
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With your gear choices, I wouldn't want to go any more than the 60303 for now.

Re: 440 Cam Selection [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1162442
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Swapping gears is easy. Luckily my old man has 5 third members ranging from 2.91, 3.23, 3.55, 3.91, and a 4.3? locker.


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Re: 440 Cam Selection [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162443
01/22/12 02:34 AM
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280-474 hemi grind is my choice with that combo !


Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162444
01/22/12 12:49 PM
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if those are your choices then the 1st one. For about the same price you could call Scoot Brown or any other guy and have a custom done. What is the compression going to be? If it were me I'd forgo the EFI and have the heads milled .030, have some more port work done, Top it with a SD or RPM intake and a nice 750HP carb. Out yeah and at least use the 3.55's.


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Re: 440 Cam [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1162445
01/22/12 01:06 PM
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I have the Lunati 303 in almost the exact set up,nice idle and sounds like a real healthy stocker.I have'nt driven the car though. sounds good with the magnaflow 2.5" exhaust.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162446
01/22/12 01:52 PM
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you might also consider one of bob k's cams..they are made to run well with manifolds..you can call/email him and he will answer any questions.. http://sixpacksixbbl.homestead.com

Re: 440 Cam [Re: magnum440] #1162447
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MP's oldie but goodie .528 mecanical if you want something mild you can drive anywhere.

The .557 grind if you want lope and have a deeper gear.

I've run the .528 in a '71 'Cuda on the street with 3.23 gears and it was a torque monster in a relatively mild build.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162448
01/22/12 06:57 PM
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I ran your exact setup. I used the comp XE275HL .525..231-237.... Ran great.As per Andy F article keep duration under 245 with manifolds.If you want mechanical its hard to beat the .528 purple shaft.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1162449
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I'll third the 528 solid choice. I had a similiar engine setup in my 71 R.R. with 3.23 and a 4 speed, exhaust manifolds too. That 528 is a great cam for that setup.

Sheldon

Re: 440 Cam [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1162450
01/22/12 07:51 PM
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Racer Brown SSH-38C would work fine. Call Jim and tell him what you want to do. He'll fix you up.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1162451
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Without milling the heads, the six pack L2355 pistons put my compression at 10.3-10.6 range with the .020 steel head gasket. Going to go with the felpro .040 to continue to safely run on pump gas.

Too late Mr.Yuck, already have the EZ-EFI system sitting in front of me. I can do most the port work myself.

This car is going to see a lot of cruising, let it be here in Texas, or going cross country to Maine and cruising the coast along the gulf. The EFI Kit just made sense, love working on carburetors but this system really grabbed my attention.

Isn't that .528 mechanical a little on the large side? 241/241 duration at .050 is kinda stout I would think.


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Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162452
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I wouldn't think that 241 dur. would be bad at all. I run a 238 dur in my 340 and it runs fine. Can't wait too see what the 270@.50 is like in my new 380.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: Belvedere2] #1162453
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Can you run stock rockers with that .528 mechanical?


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Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162454
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Its mechanical, you need adjustables

Re: 440 Cam [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1162455
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Guess I'll be sticking with hydraulic.


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Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162456
01/23/12 01:09 PM
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Quote:

Without milling the heads, the six pack L2355 pistons put my compression at 10.3-10.6 range with the .020 steel head gasket. Going to go with the felpro .040 to continue to safely run on pump gas.

Too late Mr.Yuck, already have the EZ-EFI system sitting in front of me. I can do most the port work myself.

This car is going to see a lot of cruising, let it be here in Texas, or going cross country to Maine and cruising the coast along the gulf. The EFI Kit just made sense, love working on carburetors but this system really grabbed my attention.

Isn't that .528 mechanical a little on the large side? 241/241 duration at .050 is kinda stout I would think.




the smaller voodoo will work fine. The 528 solid is pretty tame. When you adhust the lash you're at 500-508 lift.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1162457
01/23/12 07:35 PM
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Just called Comp Cams and Lunati. Comp cams recommended their XE275HL and Lunati recommended their voodoo 60304.


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Re: 440 Cam [Re: CurYellowBird] #1162458
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Quote:

Just called Comp Cams and Lunati. Comp cams recommended their XE275HL and Lunati recommended their voodoo 60304.




I suggest that you call someone familiar with specing a cam for use with exhaust manifolds. You will otherwise be leaving easy hp on the table.

Re: 440 Cam [Re: BSB67] #1162459
01/23/12 10:01 PM
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i have the 03 cam my buddy has the 04. my 440 is a little better for street cruising then the 04. look at the cam specs 03 starts at 1800 while the 04 is 2500rpm.the top of those cams are 03,6200 and 04 6500. the o3 has a broader range for street

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