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making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? #1160428
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Have any of you guys done it?
I need a groove removed that is closest to the rad.
was gonna take it to work and if got some free time put it in the lathe but that wont be till this weekend and no promise il get free time to do it
there usally 2 seperate pulleys pressed togeather
can wedge screwdriver or chisel to get them apart or will it dammage the groove i need to keep


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160429
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I think it can be done. If you look, you can see a couple of spot welds on the inside of the cone where the factory must weld the outer pully to the inner. I would think a die grinder may be able to grind them out. I have a four groove that I was going to try this to, but I am not sure if the other grooves will line up with the water pump and alternator. Maybe if I get bored one night.


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: RoadRunner] #1160430
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Had buddy cut the neck down to make shorter got carried away with the lath and they came apart (differnt pulley)
But i dont know if that was just a weak setup or what
that one apeared to just be pressed togeather


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160431
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they are welded together , I turned a double pulley int oa single in a lathe after half the outer pulley came apart after sandblasting the rust away.

Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: JohnRR] #1160432
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I looked this one over real good just now there is no spot welds or welds of any type on this pulley


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160433
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I looked this one over real good just now there is no spot welds or welds of any type on this pulley




I'm not going to argue with you , I told you what I did , granted it was with a 2 groove.

Try it and tell us how it works out .

Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: JohnRR] #1160434
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I tried with couple big screwdrivers just now i can wiggle the outward pulley very tiny bit and is slight gap up on the neck where bolts to dampner but not enuff to get anything in there id like to put it in a vice and put a pipe wrench on the neck give it a pull just enuff to see if it would twist but dont have a bench or vice here lol maybe if i slamed it hard against a tree?lol ok just kidding nothen else sooner or later it will meet the lathe


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160435
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I tried with couple big screwdrivers just now i can wiggle the outward pulley very tiny bit and is slight gap up on the neck where bolts to dampner but not enuff to get anything in there id like to put it in a vice and put a pipe wrench on the neck give it a pull just enuff to see if it would twist but dont have a bench or vice here lol maybe if i slamed it hard against a tree?lol ok just kidding nothen else sooner or later it will meet the lathe




Do you really think they are just stuck together ?

Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: JohnRR] #1160436
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I would not thought so but when we had a 4 groove pulley in the lathe (it was a pretty decent pulley not all rusty) to make 2 groove out of it..... We had the groove section in the chuck and was cutting the neck(needed a shorter neck) all was going good then was rusty smoke and loud scream from the pulley it just twisted right off we looked it all over and no welds of any kind it was just pressed togeather
i would of thought it would of been welded also but in that case it clearly was not lol
then i caught hell from buddy.... "no wonder mopars are junk they just slap them togeather"


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160437
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I'd slice it straight down like a loaf of bread w a bandsaw. Ralph I emailed before I saw this thread. Once I drilled out the 5 or 6 spot welds on one & it still wouldn't come apart so I would avoid that

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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: RapidRobert] #1160438
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I cut a water pump pully down, I used my thin cut off wheel, and I put it in a vice, cut in a half moon section, turned it, and repeated, then I sanded the edges smooth. Worked fine, spins fine, dosnt woble either. I dont see why you couldnt do the same on a crank pulley.

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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: RapidRobert] #1160439
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Sounds like a lot of work for a $25-40 part


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1160440
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Its not that much work really, pluss What I was making isnt available so I made it. I made a home made A/C bracket and needed to make a pulley match up to it.


Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160441
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i think the guy who said they are just pressed together is right maybe a little heat with a torch on the outside to expand them and maybe they will come apart???

Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: Sparky77] #1160442
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i think the guy who said they are just pressed together is right maybe a little heat with a torch on the outside to expand them and maybe they will come apart??? [/quote
do you know their pressed togeather?
Yes this pulley set up is custom job also lol as the very back groove closest to balancer is lot smaller then the one that is gonna be removed


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160443
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pretty sure they are pressed if u cant find any spot welds.... look on the outside of the pully shank as well as where the bolts go.....

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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160444
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Well putting in the vice didnt work mostly because didnt have one open up enuff to hold it so it goes into the lathe lolu


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160445
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Ok this one was differnt then last one drilled out 4 spot welds and came right out


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Re: making a 2 groove pulley from a 3/4 groove pulley? [Re: toplescuda] #1160446
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If you don't have any spot welds heat the outer shell with a propane torch, it may give you some relief. My two groove pulley was one piece so I cut it on my lathe, it turned out very nice.







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